Good luck with that, Ray.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Casualties Of Carlson Come For Revenge

    Ray Epps is a 60-something former Marine who lives in the mountains, loves Donald Trump and who attended the “Stop the Steal” rally on Jan. 6 to seek solidarity with those who believed the lies Trump, Fox News and others were spreading about a stolen election.

    With the help of Trump allies who were looking for anyone and anything to blame for the violent attack on the Capitol besides Trump, Epps became the MAGA crowd’s number one scapegoat for conspiracy theories about the Deep State being behind the insurrection. And Carlson brought much of the agent-provocateur madness to a national audience with segments about the attack that painted Epps as some sort of undercover agent who riled up the masses and encouraged innocent Trump supporters to storm the Capitol.

    The footage of Epps, combined with his military background and the fact that he was never charged for his actions on Jan. 6 were enough to feed the Carlson fever swamps for months on end. As The Washington Post noted, Epps’ name has been mentioned on Fox News more than 160 times in the past two years. And now, Epps is demanding an apology.

    Epps’ lawyer sent a letter to Carlson on Thursday, demanding a retraction of the false statements the Fox News host has made about Epps being an undercover operative and requesting a “formal on-air apology for the lies.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/casualties-of-carlson-come-for-revenge

    Tucker, apologize for his lies? Get serious. We're talking about a professional propagandist who once he was exposed as a hypocritical liar by way of the discover material released to the public from the Dominion case, doubled down on his lies about 1/6. Doing so by showing some of the video material given to him by the leader of the Crazy, K. McCarthy, and claiming 1/6 was a mostly peaceful protest.

    And this is who Epps thinks is going to apologize for assassinating his character? Ray thinks Tucker is going to go on air and admit to Faux's biz model..........lying to its audience. Call me skeptical.
     
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    He's seeking an on air apology from Tucker for the on air characterizations, I'd assume a threat of a law suit and a settlement are the plan.
     
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    That's usually the plan, whenever you lawyer up.
     
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    He should also sue Ted Cruz.
     
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    Again why is epps the man seen encouraging others to do illegal acts on cell phone footage the only supposedly maga person that was in the capitol that day that DOJ isn't interested in jailing?
     
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    The explanation that I've seen is that he never entered the Capitol, himself. Yet, that excuse won't work for Trump who democrats insist incited an "insurrection" by just telling his supporters to march peacefully and patriotically TO the Capitol to make their voices heard.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's crimes went well beyond the rally on the Ellipse.

    January 6 Vice Chair Cheney said Trump had a ‘seven-part plan’ to overturn the election. Here’s what she meant
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html
     
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    All of which is little more than self serving fiction. Crap from people who were willing to tell what ever lie they had to to get their nuts out of the ringer. The first casualty of the 1/6 investigation was the truth, and that was by design as the truth was vastly less important than reaching the desired conclusion.
     
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    Even if true based on footage I've seen not more than about thirty people ever entered the building and one of those was murdered. By the way encouraging people to commit a felony is felonious in and of itself. Meanwhile the footage I've seen indicates less than a thousand rioters and they are investigating people who weren't even in the capital that day.
     
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    Here's Why Ray Epps Is Now Targeting Tucker Carlson

    'Tucker Carlson aired more footage taken during the January 6 riot and exposing Epps lying to the House Committee on when he left during the unfolding incident.'

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    Ray Epps is demanding that Tucker quit exposing him as a liar.

    'Not only was Epps caught on camera telling people to go to the Capitol building on January 5 and 6, along with being among the first to breach the outside perimeter of the complex, but footage Carlson aired proved Epps lied when he testified he left the grounds of the Capitol earlier than he actually did.'

    'January 6 footage shows that Ray Epps lied to the J6 Committee about when he left the Capitol on that day. J6 Committee members likely knew this but defended him anyway.'
     
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    Why wasn't Epps charged?
    Why wasn't Epps charged?
    It's a fair question. I would like to know more of Epps background.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ex-Fox News Producer Asks To Correct The Testimony She Gave In Dominion Case

    Abby Grossberg — a former Tucker Carlson producer who sued Fox News last week accusing the network of pressuring her into giving misleading testimony about their coverage of supposed election fraud — filed new allegations Monday morning, claiming coercive coaching by Fox lawyers, bias and unprofessional behavior by staff members and retaliation by the network, according to NBC News.

    In the court filing in Delaware, NBC reported, Grossberg asked for an opportunity to correct a September deposition she gave in Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation suit, saying it was tainted by pressure from Fox lawyers.

    “Based on what I understood and took away from the deposition preparation sessions I had with Fox’s legal team which were coercive and intimidating, I felt that I had to do everything possible to avoid becoming the ‘star witness’ for Dominion or else I would be seriously jeopardizing my career at Fox News and would be subjected to worse terms and conditions of employment than male employees as I understood it,” Grossberg said in an unredacted errata sheet filed in Delaware, according to NBC.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...rrect-the-testimony-she-gave-in-dominion-case

    I very much doubt Tucker is in the mood to admit he lied about Ray Epps. It could open the Pandora's box of other suits for more of his hundreds of lies.
     
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    Interesting to me how the MSM goes after Trump and Fox News. I guess they don't like the competition.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's an interesting take considering both Faux and Trump are inveterate liars.
     
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    When news anchor Dan Rather was "caught red-handed" lying on TV about Bush would you also say CBS lies?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rather's story was closer to the truth than not. https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/gov...bs-george-w-bush-dan-rather-got-mostly-right/


    However, he was fired.
    No one has been held accountable by Faux management at Faux. Probably because management was aware the anchors were lying and were OK with it.
     
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    There were thousands of people there that day doing the same thing Epps was doing who didn't get arrested.

    Why aren't you as interested in why they weren't arrested as you are Ray Epps?

    May you should go back and think about how Ray Epps name got planted in your head.
     
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    "Closer to the truth" -- LOL
    It took a while to fire Rather after he was proven lying. Plus he kept defending his lies night after night.

    I saw no one coaching the crowd like Epps was doing. Epps was planted in my head from the videos. Maybe you should watch the videos.
     
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    Doesn't negate the fact that he got fired.
     
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    I've seen the videos. He doesn't strike me any different than any of the other boomers who were there.
     
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    there are plenty of "maga people" that the doj does not seem interested in jailing. start with trump, stone, flynn, bannon, and the team on the war room.

    epps is an oath keeper, and should be prosecuted for his part in the conspiracy, not for being an fbi agent (many of whom sympathize or belong to these wight wing nut job "militias" )
     
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    Rather and his producer are guilty of being negligent in not thoroughly vetting the document used in the segment. But the main thrust of the story, that Shrub got in to the ANG because of a family connection, and he was AWOL for about 1 year of the time he was supposed to serve, is correct.
    At Faux, there is irrefutable documentary evidence that multiple on air personalities, their producers, as well as upper management and ownership knew what they were reporting about Dominion was a complete fabrication yet there have been no consequences for anyone.
     
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    Nut job as in believe in such primitive ideas as one man one vote constitutional restraints on the federal government etc.
     

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