Teenager shot by a homeowner.

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  1. Sallyally

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    Why would you be so scared that you’d shoot a stranger on your doorstep?
     
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    What makes you automatically think that racism is involved.

    To be honest, I haven't been following this story very closely.

    Thanks,
     
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    Or another hyper-paranoid reckless old right-winger with a gun?
     
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    Likely a regular consumer of right-wing media where they basically tell the rubes that there are scary black dudes behind every bush waiting to jump them, and you need to be armed to the teeth...
     
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    All burglars knock or ring the doorbell to see if the house is empty.
     
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    Is this why we rarely see Jehovah Witness come by anymore. Actually now that I think about it even if Jehovah Witness no longer come by we still get a ton of people trying to sell services like cleaning windows, painting, power washing etc... I wonder if incidents like this will decrease the number of people coming door to door to sell services or ask for donations etc...
     
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    Looking at some other sources, apparently 'words were exchanged' between the shooter and the victim before the shooting. What those words were... dunno.

    KCPD held the shooter for 24 hours, but cant hold him longer without charges, and can't charge him with anything before getting a statement from the victim. Why they cant get a statement from the victim yet (he was released from the hospital, so...) is unclear.

    Unless Ralph made threats or attempted to force entry into the home, I dont see the homeowner walking on this one. Its just the circumstances of the victim's (lack of) statement holding up the investigation temporarily.

    Shooting a stranger at your door just cuz they knocked isn't protected by any laws in any state. Either theres more to this case than we're being provided by news stories, or the bureaucracy of LE isn't working fast enough to satisfy the emotional reaction of the locals. Or both.
     
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    Error?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65299127
     
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    In those "other modern democracies", the people don't have the right to keep and bear arms as we do in the USA. Furthermore, those other modern democracies wouldn't even exist were it not for the existence of the USA. Consequently, the USA is the benefactor of essentially all of their blessings. So stop telling us that we need to be like them. We don't. If we were, none of us would exist. And btw, murders in the USA are about 5 per hundred thousand people. There are a heap of nations far more dangerous, in the tens, twenties, thirties, forties, and fifties per hundred thousand people.
     
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    All the right questions. Well done.
     
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    Of course you do........
     
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    Yep, and that's why he shot the kid.
     
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    A lot of that probably depends on the length of your driveway. My driveway is right on a public road and you can see the road from my door and we get the occasional evangelist. But a bunch of my friends that live down the street in a neighborhood of private dirt roads, some of them have fairly long driveways and even with no signs posted you don't get strangers showing up out there. If someone lives way back in the woods you just assume a couple of things.... A that they are armed..... And B they probably don't like unannounced guests.

    Of course regardless of your layout you can always put up a sign
     
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    You say that like you're not doing anything but confirming your own biases without evidence.

    They could save their self money on the investigation and just ask you cuz evidently you have it all figured out
     
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    And the Moon is likely made of blue cheese.

    You see how people can just make statements without evidence too?
     
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    You'd have to prove this homeowner wouldn't have shot a person in the same circumstance if they were a different race.

    Remember this isn't Russia you're innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof is on the accuser
     
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    The immediate response from leftists when you have a justified shooting is to claim the shooter is racist.

    Remember Rittenhouse, Zimmerman. They made the same claim in both of these cases.

    They are crying wolf and more and more every time they do it people roll their eyes.
     
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    A Conservative politician in my city, Melbourne, said that the African gang problem was so bad that people were too scared to go out for dinner! It must be a common conservative ploy.
     
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    For any white progressive it appears that the homeowner being white and the person having been shot is black.... That's all the evidence they need.... It's an open and shut case in their mind.

    Anytime a black person is the victim of crime perpetrated by a white it means it's automatically racist to them
     
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    No no no it's not about white if this homeowner was black and Shadow white kid it's it was racist they would say it was white supremacy.

    It's not really about the shooting it's about a person daring to defend themselves. The thing with Andrew Zimmerman the thing with Kyle writtenhouse all of that was to make you think twice about defending yourself.

    It's just that racism is the programming language and this is how they get all the lemmings to fall in line I don't want to be called racist so they do what they're told.
     
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    An 80 yr old white guy with a gun according to reporting.
     
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    And do you also think that is enough to determine his politics and motivation?
     
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    People need to stop caring about the slurs progressives used against them and laugh in their face when they use them.

    A person should primarily only concern themselves with the opinions of those they love and respect.
     
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    It's a step in the right direction.
    Where;s Lester hiding out?

    Charges filed in shooting of Kansas City teen who rang wrong doorbell
    "He was confronted by a man who told him, ‘Don’t come back around here,’” and then the man “immediately fired his weapon," attorney Lee Merritt said."

    "An 85-year-old white man, Andrew Lester, has been charged with two crimes in the April 13 shooting of Ralph Yarl, 16, who is Black: assault in the first degree and armed criminal action, Clay County Prosecuting Attorney Zachary Thompson said Monday.


    An arrest warrant was issued for Lester, who is not in custody, Thompson said, adding that he didn't know where Lester was.

    Lester's bond was set at $200,000, Thompson said.

    Thompson said there was a racial component to the shooting but declined to elaborate. Lester faces a maximum punishment of life in prison in the assault charge and three to 15 years for the alleged gun crime, Thompson said."

    Thompson said no words were exchanged before Lester allegedly opened fire with a .32 revolver, striking Yarl twice — once in the head and once in the arm. Yarl had not entered the home when Lester allegedly shot him through a glass door, Thompson said."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-ralph-yarl-opening-fire-teens-atto-rcna80033
     
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