The AR15 IS a weapon of war and IS designed to kill people!!!!!

well clearly that is his argument in favor of banning rifles that are used in less than one percent of the murders despite being the most commonly owned centerfire rifle in the USA

 

Well, they were designed to be used as weapons. all guns are in fact all weapons ever devised by humanity were.

SO?

It was protected under ste second amendment. they didn't change or erase anything.

 

sure rights have limitations. but they have to be well argued. a gun looking spooky to people isn't good enough. it being deadly isn't good enough they all are that's the point. sorry you can't come up with a good reason for this limit you want.

Right so a semi automatic rifle isn't any less safe than any other firearm so this isn't a valid limit.

 

These days the AR15 is mostly used by mass shooters and gangsters for street violence, gang wars and other crimes.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ar-15-mass-shootings-60-minutes-2022-05-29/

 

Well there is approximately 20 million of them in the country so mostly they are used for lawful purposes.

it isn't even the weapon of choice for mass shooters pistols are like 3:1 so CBS is not a source to trust on this.

 

??? They erased half the second amendment!!

 

Who used CBS for that?

There are lots of cars, too. And, almost all the time drivers try hard not to kill people.

Yet, we put huge effort into improving safety, because the death rate is too high - just like it is too high for firearms.

 

No they didn't.

 

Post #254 the one i was responding to. they lied about the AR15 being used in most mass shotings.

This undermines your position.

Improving safety on the roadway. yeah if there was a place where people all fired their guns around one another there would be laws about that too. but there isn't. so the slimily fails.

 

Just like every shooter misses on purpose so as not to kill anyone?
Btw: cars are not designed to kill but firearms are.

 

Why do people say this like it is a valid point. Yes weapons are designed to be used as weapons that is the whole point in owning them.

 

Mindless nonsense.
20,000,000 ARs in the US.
Of the 636 mass shootings in 2022, 8 involved an AR.

 

What "huge effort"?

 

And yet cars, as highly regulated as the vehicles and drivers are, continue to kill tens of thousands of people every year accidentally.

 

To return to the assertion of the OP; it makes the assertion, the AR15 IS a weapon of war and IS designed to kill people!!!!!”… I again ask, where is the AR 15 used in warfare. If it cannot be shown it is used in warfare, then the OP fails in its assertion; it’s that simple, anything else is expanding the discussion beyond the OP.
As for the added assertion, that the AR15 is designed to “kill people”, please explain how the objective “to kill people” was an intended design parameter. If that part of the assertion cannot be supported, again the OP fails. In an earlier post, Turtle dude explained why the AR 15 was introduced into the civilian marketplace a post that was accurate, but was largely ignored by those intent on advancing the demonization of the AR platform in an argument from ignorance.

 

There are regulations on drivers and their behavior, how well they can see, the rules of the road and how well they know them, how capable they are at driving a car, etc. There are insurance requirements that place a cost on poor driving record. There is policing. Etc.

There are regulations on every piece of a car - the knobs, the steering wheel, the air bags, collision testing, emissions, ...

There are regulations on how roads may be designed, from sidewalks, to rails, to signage, to speed limits, to striping, etc., etc.

Do you really think that isn't a "huge effort"???

 

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this falsehood... it remains a falsehood.

 

M'kay. So?

 

he never has been able to tell us what the first half actually does in terms of easing the negative restriction on the federal government

 

And he doesn't understand the challenge to that effect.

 

So, there is an even larger public safety issue in the greater deaths due to guns.

That should be equally motivating of efforts to improve that public safety issue.

 

The Constitution -- necessarily and intentionally -- takes certain "public safety" options off the table.
IOW: Find another way.

 

The "pound sand" approach to public safety does not work.

There does need to be progress made on this problem.

 

Regardless:
The Constitution -- necessarily and intentionally -- takes certain "public safety" options off the table.
IOW: Find another way.

 

Given that progress IS a necessity that is not going to just "go away", you should WANT to be part of the discussion.