Are we all clear now that Trump is a criminal?

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

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    The point is, he had plenty of time to tell the DOJ indict Hillary if there was really anything indictable.
     
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    The raucous circus outside the courtroom and in the tabloid media will contrast markedly with the decorum and rational focus on the evidence within the judicial process, no doubt.

    At least, there doesn't appear to be another monumental Trump goon attack in the offing.


    Trump is calling for support for his court appearance. The far right may stay away
    When Trump posted to his Truth Social platform on Friday, "SEE YOU IN MIAMI ON TUESDAY!!!," the call eerily echoed the tweets with which he summoned his supporters to Washington, D.C., in the lead-up to Jan. 6, 2021. Then, Trump's tweet helped to draw tens of thousands to the nation's capital.

    For some, it was interpreted as an invitation to plan and engage in collective violence. But extremism researchers say that this time around, they are not seeing signs of similar, large-scale and detailed planning around Trump's expected courthouse appearance.

    "One of the most striking things that stuck out about January 6 that we're not seeing now are logistical and tactical maps of buildings, facilities, areas, exit routes," said Benjamin Decker, CEO of Memetica, a threat intelligence group.

    Decker said violent rhetoric on fringe platforms such as far-right Telegram channels, 4chan, Gab, Truth Social, Gettr and Patriots.win has spiked since Trump's indictment last week. He said it has been particularly concerning to see some of this language targeting Attorney General Merrick Garland and special counsel Jack Smith. But he said the appetite to participate in a mass, in-person event is muted...


    [https://www.npr.org/2023/06/12/1181773055/trump-court-appearance-tuesday-miami-extremism]



     
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  3. The Ant

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    Hmmmm....you sure about that...?

    “I WILL APPOINT A REAL SPECIAL ‘PROSECUTOR’ TO GO AFTER THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA, JOE BIDEN, THE ENTIRE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY, & ALL OTHERS INVOLVED WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ELECTIONS, BORDERS, & COUNTRY ITSELF!”

    Sounds calm and rational, doesn't it....? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    I think it probable that he committed a minor process error that would not be prosecuted were he a member of the deep state. I'll try to keep an open mind.

    I think it is the reaction that is new. Senator Biden sounds like he did worse, and had less authority to be taking of these documents home.

    Then again, I think you are being willful. This lawfair we are witnessing is unprecedented and 3rd world banana republic stuff.

    As for that fear for the life of the leaker in the Biden bribery by foreign power case:

    https://dallasexpress.com/national/fbi-afraid-source-may-be-killed-for-leak/
     
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  5. The Ant

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    "Deep state"...? That's an example of an open mind...?

    And yes, his initial possession of those documents may have been excused as a "process error". However, what he did next, over the following 18 months, became a crime...
     
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    [/quote] What part of " . . .until proven guilty" confuses you?
     
  7. gorfias

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    Yeah, cuz Hillary and others always snap to attention and provide documents when subpoenaed. What "things" are you writing of? Was he changing policy in exchange for graft and selling the documents to foreign powers?

    Still: reviewing. Watching this now: Dersh is saying Trump appears to have opened his mouth too much.
    https://rumble.com/v2trmw4-did-they-get-trump.html
     
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    You appear ill-informed.
     
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    I'm sorry but trump showed reckless abandon for our country and our security. He's a bumbling buffoon in the best case. If you vote for trump in the primaries (assuming he's not in prison - where he belongs) then you get the country you deserve. It's about godamn time the adults spoke up ffs.
     
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    Did it happen?... LMAO
     
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    I'm sorry but regardless of how you feel, the reality is we were in a much better spot socially, economically and globally.

    That's just OBJECTIVE REALITY.
     
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    I never said he could order it. But he certainly could have “weaponized” the DOJ to go after her, right??? ;)
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol: Trump is the very definition of childish, disgusting and vindictive. Oh man…you’re a trip. Thanks for the laughs.
     
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    Sure, if you think like a rube. There's no way you can logically take the position that because Biden is president and x,y,and z occurred therefore trump should be president. I won't vote for Biden and I damn sure won't vote for that incompetent fat slob trump.
    Serious question, what more would trump need to do before you wake up and come to the blindingly obvious conclusion that trump is not good for the country?
     
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    You asked why he didn't and I pointed out that he can't.

    If he's reelected he'll go after all of them. That's why they're so desperate to put him in prison before that happens.
     
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    And another thing... What is it going to take before we stop treating out presidents as king and start treating them like what they are: OUR employee!!! All of the meticoulous protocols and procedures that we have to secure our national secrets are in place for a reason!! trump put us all at risk because he's an egotistical f*ckhole (again - that's the best case scenario). If the documents that Biden left in his garage are to the level of the ones in trumps bathroom he should be impeached and then prosecuted, just like I would be if I took classified home.
     
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    the man committed crimes- he ought to be in prison.
     
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    I of course wasn’t referring to when Trump was a citizen. I of course was referring to when he was president. He could have gone after her when he was president. I figured that should have been fairly obvious. I gave you too much credit.
     
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    Why are you quoting words I haven't used...? "things"...??

    For the umpteenth time.... The Stain is being charged, not simply for having documents in his possession, but because of what followed that possession. If he had done as Biden, Pence, Obama and many others have done and returned the documents once they had been discovered, then this issue would be a minor news blip. Even if he had returned them all on the second or third request, the whole issue would be at rest...

    But, he didn't do that, did he....?
     
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    Please stop stating facts. It will only confuse him.
     
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    Yep, he definitely wrote that on his Mistruth Antisocial garbage site...
     
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    inflation is bad
    the border is bad
    global security is bad
    segregation has increased
    hate crimes have increased
    drug use
    homelessness
    suicide
    school test scores are down
    we've empowered the Taliban

    where the **** do you see a win here? There is no progressive policy that has worked out for us. None. Everything has gone south in the *******. And all you will do is be in denial because you hate Trump.

    But if I have to choose between Trump and Biden, I'm picking Trump and it's not even close.
     
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    The best win possible....The Orange Stain is being bleached from the US landscape...
     
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    and the world burns as result from picking the wrong crook. Make no mistake, Biden's conscious is not clean.
     
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