Juneteenth… Quite possibly the dumbest holiday in the United States

Trump's term wasn't useless. He gave us two great gifts: kept Hillary out of the White House and hundreds of conservative judges. Thank you Donald.

 

When you keep score on representation and under the guise of equity purposefully hold people back while propping others up. Rewarding or punishing based on identity and not merit, you don't build bridges. You tear them apart. You will figure this out the hard way as hate crimes continue to rise and society continues to degrade.

As for the stats in said report? If it highlights a racist police department? I could understand that and suggest shutting it down. Policies that specifically target black people? Laws on the books? nope. Reject, absolutely. But bias by police officers against certain groups that consistently make their lives miserable seems to be something I could understand. Black police officers are more violent towards black suspects then white police officers.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/7457...s-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe
"The race of a police officer did not predict the race of the citizen shot. In other words, black officers were just as likely to shoot black citizens as white officers were."

Your problem is that bias is a natural side effect of pattern recognition. You can't escape it. You can't ignore it. You can only try to understand it and find ways to mitigate it.
People who witness this type of behavior...are going to form bias. That's just reality.
https://twitter.com/JeffYoungerShow/status/1672979644834824192?s=20

 

And released.

 

Why you telling me that? Tell that to the person who brought it up.

 

MORE people coming INCREASE border apprehensions as well as border crossing attempts. They don't get everyone. Hence the problem.

 

Some. Some not.
But if released. Legal. Per our immigration policies.

 

That is a possible correlation. But it may or may not be accurate.

After the ending of the trump covid immigration policy a few months ago, the RW media was going crazy over the amount of immigrants that were going to come into the country.
Never happened.

 

I'M THANKFUL I AM HERE. Aren't you???? I am thankful my ancestors came here and would not have wanted it any other way. They were Irish and faced their own discrimination and segregation. It's doesn't plague my every day of my life. In fact it doesn't effect a thing about my life.

Thank the white man for turning a desolate privative brutal land into a civilized society, as they existed at the time, which led to the United States of America the country that has offered more freedom and liberty to more people than any in the history of mankind. Africans are certainly NOT the only people who were enslaved my own ancestors were enslaved and treated as sub-humans for several hundred years. Thank you very much.

Because you injected the myth that the people who have invested LOTS of money into those slaves and the ship captains being paid to transport them simply passed the time during the voyage by throwing the slaves into the ocean and torturing and beating and mistreating them. Slaves were VALUABLE cargo. Just as any other cargo. The captain of the ship would get a commission for how many survived the voyage. Like any other cargo as callous as that might sound NOW we are talking about THEN. Tell me does your last comment there also apply to the Africans who captured and herded together their enemies and sold them to the Europeans who were willing to pay for them?

 

I am grateful that Trump meant no Hillary. As well as nominated conservative Judges to the supreme court. But as far as policy. You sir, have just got to own bad policy. Like Biden! He came into office, reversed most of Trump's border policies because he was so virtuous, and then realized that was a dumb move and then reinstalled most of those policies back!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/02/remain-in-mexico-biden-administration-immigration
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-01-05/biden-new-border-strategy

"Do not just show up at the border. Stay where you are and apply legally from there,” Biden said in a speech announcing the new approach."

"Prominent Democrats have criticized the policy, which the Trump administration implemented early in the COVID-19 pandemic, as a draconian measure that uses public health as a pretext to cut off access to asylum."

"The Biden administration also said it would soon be issuing a proposal that would force those crossing without authorization to prove they are not ineligible for asylum if they did not seek asylum or another legal pathway to the U.S. before arriving at the border.
Immigrant advocates, who compared the proposal to a Trump-era policy, roundly condemned the new measures announced Thursday."

So while there was no surge after title 42 ended, Biden had to go full Trump like to stop the flow.

 

I fully backed them up and they remain unrefuted.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-united-states.611352/page-10#post-1074280704

 

Yes, the black community was torn about for nearly the entirely of this country's history.

Bridges are not being torn apart. Some groups feel that way, but the majority of Americans aren't seeing inclusion as tearing bridges down, but building new bridges.
Those seeing bridges torn down are the angry ones that don't want to see more inclusion in America. They are in the minority holding that view.

The NPR story shows that the system is geared against black communities and it doesn't matter the color of the police officers skin.
Yes, black communities have higher crime rates than average communities. But as I often say, it's due, IMO, to poverty. Poor education opportunities. Poor job opportunities.
Driven largely by the 150+ years of systemic racism and discrimination.
Black communities were forced into that situation.
It's going to take generations of building to lift all that they went through before they can gain momentum to sustain the upwards clime from such a deep deep hole.

The MPLS police report, if it highlights? You never read or seen it. I think I even linked a copy to you in one of these threads.
You just ignored it and then rant about the fact I keep harping on it.
Of course it showed a big systemic tone to racism.
They were only punished and almost never rewarded.
Now that it is changing, there's a group that are upset that blacks are being rewarded. Why? I am not sure.

 

I was perfectly clear who do you think we are talking about?

 

Sorry.

 

Covid ended. The policy which trump put in place had to legally end.
It's part of USA policy.

 

https://twitter.com/BIPOCracism/status/1672782465402826754?s=20

https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumia/status/1672671235690430465?s=20

Pattern recognition. Being a mature and reasonable part of society is the smallest of asks. And if you are a cop and this is the **** you see on the daily in places like in Minnesota, are you going to act confused over what could possibly cause such bias to form?

 

What is this twitter tweets?
Are they suppose to mean or prove something?
Is this the new source of misinformation? People's personal opinions on social media?

Not being put into systemic racism holes, is that to much to ask?

 

DOJ finds systemic racism in Minneapolis police force...seriously? Is there anyone still stupid enough to trust findings from the highly politicized Department of Justice? Damn, I hope no one is that stupid.

 

I am. And most of America are.

Why do you think the DoJ would have it in for the MPLS police department.
Fill us stupid people in.

 

There are so many horrible shitty takes in this incredibly long winded response that I wouldn’t be shocked if you and the OP weren’t secretly attached at the hip.

To sum all this up verbosely, I’ll just say that black ancestors did NOT come her by choice, which is different from what you’re trying to say at the start. Then you want to give out a thank you to creating the nation even though Native American genocide was occurring at the same time and that same freedom and liberty did not extend to all groups, but mainly for the ones you’re wanting a thank you for.

Long story short, your entire post from beginning to end is garbage as fck, but considering the subject and the OP of the thread itself garbage takes aren’t a new thing.

 

And the answer it to not coddle piss poor behavior. If you want black people to succeed then good choices need to be encouraged and rewarded. Not coddled and rewarded simply because you feel guilty and they are black.

Black communities have developed a piss poor culture of entitlement and irresponsibility. You can't fix that by dumping on white people. You are not making the situation better. You are making it worse. You encourage the sense of entitlement by blacks and you cause resentment from whites.

And we are seeing this play out as there has absolutely been a rise in hate crimes and the return of segregation especially within our Universities and Colleges. That's causality. Cause/effect.

And I would ABSOLUTELY challenge and study trying to suggest the claims in the study you posted. I think it's more probably that a bunch of virtue slinging dipshits skewed an investigation and called everything "racism" because anything but personal responsibility or accountability and agency is to blame for black people struggling today in society.

And I did read some of the study. While they did include an example of a black person detained in a room had a knife on his person and was cutting himself...to assume he was no threat to anyone other than himself was a leap of logic. So with that one example, I would love to challenge any of the other examples they wish to put forth as an example of excessive force.

Tony Timpa died from knee on neck much like George Floyd. Except Tony didn't just ingest an overdose of fentanyl to compromise his health. Tony also didn't have an extensive list of priors but that's neither here nor there. You never heard of that name because he's white. But when the same situation happens to a black man...HAS to be racism. HAS to.

I don't even trust the Chauvin verdict. I think it was absolutely swayed by social pressures. Because that's where we are now.

There is absolutely a growing divide in this country. And it isn't because people hate to see black people succeed. It's because you've abolished merit for identity in the name of virtue and are actively excusing bad behavior while drumming up false narratives to excuse bad behavior.

The outcome of such a direction will be disaster.

 

What are you talking about?
Sense of entitlement? What entitlement?
Who the heck is dumping on white people? I am white, I've never been dumped upon.
Neither have you.

The hate crimes are likely rising, if your opinion is true, by RW side.
There's no return of segregation.

You're just making up stuff about the study without a shred of evidence.
If you have evidence of the study being flawed show some evidence.
Instead of 'I think it's more probably that a bunch of virtue slinging dipshits', that's not providing any sort of evidence of a skewed investigation. Surely some RW partisan source must have something to say on the study that you could use instead of some hunch of yours.

I bet you don't believe Chauvin was guilty even though video evidence was obvious.
Is that because Floyd is black?

The divide is mostly among the RW whites who feel they are losing the complete control they've had since the founding of the country.
They falsely believe as you posted earlier in your post about whites being dumped on. Which is ridiculous.

There's no merit for identity. I don't even know what that even means.

 

Columbus day was created just to pander to Catholics so that is exactly like Juneteenth. Christmas wasn't

 

Oh I see who I'm dealing with. Blinders on. You have blinders. Do I need to respam multiple examples of society actively ******** on white people?

Like Coca Cola online training to "be less white"?
Or forced training to all white employees about "white male culture" at Lockheed martin?
Starbucks firing all their white employees because a white female manager dared to deny two african American non patrons in using the bathroom?
The CRT crap in schools...
Being asked to not see something stupid like Black Panther on opening weekend.
Get out of your ignorant bubble. That's the problem with you progressives. You don't immediately experience the issue you pretend it's not there. Regardless of multiple examples.

Blacks are disproportionately responsible for violent crimes, including hate crimes. Black people vote democratic at a 90 percent click rate...if you MUST place blame on any one political side. Contrary to your stupid fairy tale "white supremacy is actually NOT America's biggest problem" Because of the entitlement gained by coddling black people, they are actually becoming more racist. If that were even possible.

They would NEVER let the public be privy to the details of that study. For this to be investigated I would need to see and evaluate all the examples of what they deemed to be "excessive force". All I can judge it by is the one example it did detail and the outrageous claims it declares at the end of the study. Both of which I find questionable.

It is because as an experiment, I experienced knee on neck for the same duration by a person who was equal my size. Not substantially smaller and lighter like Chauvin (140) to Floyd (265). And unlike Chauvin, I had the knee pressure directly on my neck. Whereas the bruising on Floyd in the autopsy showed the bruising/pressure to be on his shoulder. And finally I didn't ingest enough fentanyl to kill a horse just before the experiment, compromising my system.

Floyd played a much larger role in killing himself then Chauvin and his 140 pound frame placing pressure on his shoulder blade ever did. That's just objective reality.

I guess it must be nice to place your head in the sand but merit has been considered "racist"

https://www.newsweek.com/school-called-racist-san-francisco-1566895
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/smithsonian-institution-explains-that-rationality-hard-work-are-racist/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/08/nyregion/gifted-talented-nyc-schools.html

This nonsense was displayed at the National Museum of African American History and Culture. If you display stupid **** like this you are going to get a bunch of black people buying into the messaging here.


As for segregation? It is ABSOLUTELY supported and growing within our woke Universities and Colleges. "Safe spaces" for black students. Black only graduations... Again. This is a growing phenomenon. This isn't new and I shouldn't need to link you examples. You should already be aware of how gross society has changed under the woke principles fostered by progressives.

But then you seem to have your head in the sand because your personal experiences has sheltered you from the reality of what's been going on around you.

 

The Supreme Court may be running out of patience for Trump’s worst judges
https://www.vox.com/scotus/2023/6/2...s-ice-immigration-drew-tipton-brett-kavanaugh

ABA Says Yet Another Trump Nominee to Federal Bench Is Not Qualified
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/...mp-nominee-to-federal-bench-is-not-qualified/

As for Hillary, I can understand you may have disagreed with her policy positions since she's a Dem. But the fact you did not cite any legislative achievements under Individual 1's rein of terror that made the country a better place to live in, and of course made no mention of his failed coup, failed COVID response, orchestrated divisiveness, his fondness for despots, his corruption of the DoJ, the revolving door of cabinet appointees, his association with felons, his abuses of power, stonewalling congressional investigations, firing IG's, ending the Iran nuclear agreement, withdrawing from the Paris Accords, threatening to pull out of NATO, harming international relations, his pathological lying, surrounding himself with unqualified sycophants, the nepotism, etc., is extremely telling.

 

You've described Biden.