Democrat in Name Only

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    For all the talk of RINOs from Trump and the far right it appears that the GOP, knowing they couldn't win an election fair and square, decided that deceitful and duplicitous was the way to go.

    In NC Tricia Cotham was elected to the state legislature as a Democrat in November of 2022 only to switch parties in April of 2023 giving the Republicans a supermajority which then allowed them to pass a veto proof abortion ban.

    Why would a Democrat, from a deeply blue district, suddenly switch parties less than 5 months after taking office? Well one answer could be that she really isn't a Democrat. She ran as a Democrat with the plan all along to switch parties if she won.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/turns-rep-tricia-cotham-north-170000213.html

    Yep, that's the Republicans for you. Tell any lie you can to get elected because free and fair elections are for suckers.
     
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    maybe she tho't murdering babies in the womb is wrong? yeah.. don't expect a demonrat to understand that.
     
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    Can't do that twice. The voters will be on guard for the next election. I hope it was worth it, the Republicans will probably all be voted out.
     
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    No, what she THOUGHT was "I'll just lie about my party affiliation to get elected. I'll lie to the people voting for me."

    Lying to your constituency? Lying to the voters of your district? None of that is important. But I wouldn't expect a Republican to understand that.
     
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    Trump used to be a Democrat, then he wasn't

    what's the point
     
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    So what you are saying is that the people liked what she had to offer but now they won't like what she has to offer because of a party choice. Not sure why the party matters if they like what she has to offer.
     
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    The R Party has no bottom anymore, it reflects the leader, Trump.
     
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    This post speaks volumes.
    Just saying'.
     
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    If people vote for someone just because of the letter behind their name, then its the voters fault and their problem. Now if she said during the campaign the exact opposite, and claimed she was pro choice, she should be impeached and removed from office.
     
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    For the same reason they have fully embraced the culture war, extreme gerrymandering and outright electoral fraud (see NC, FL and MI for examples). And the same reason they are calling to live the voting age to 25.

    They do not have an actual policy platform because be as cruel as possible are are about to be decimated by younger and educated voters unless their tactics work.
     
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    I believe she was pro choice and there is no way to recall her in NC.
     
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    Well, this one is as much on the D's as the liars R's.... You gotta vet your candidates..

    Somebody should have asked her who won the 2000 Election.... that would have ended her game right at the beginning...

    Fortunately, stunts like this rarely lead to a long term career in politics... She's as done as George Santos in 2024...
     
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    What does that say about voters?
     
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    Not a good comparison, considering the fact that Trump has changed party affiliation 6 times, to whatever the circumstance affords the opportunity.

    He has no convictions, he's an opportunist, and empty suit.
     
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    Imagine that.

    Democrats shouting down anybody that doesn't tow their exact line and viewpoint.

    Cotham, a former educator who served in the state House for nearly 10 years through 2016 before returning this year, criticized Democrats for trying to control her and refusing to accept her differing viewpoints. The Republican Party best represents her principles, she said last week, but does not necessarily indicate how she’ll vote on every issue.
     
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    She ran on protecting women's right to abortion. She then spit in the face of the people who voted for her. Why is that acceptable?

    Need a remind the GOP what they said to Cheney and Kinzinger for going against the party line?
     
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    Are you saying that politicians can never change the way that they think? Both Clintons, Obama, and Biden cannot support gay marriage after they said that they were against it?
     
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    Obama, Biden and Clinton never made laws on gay gay marriage.

    Abortion is a hot topic and she campaigned on being pro choice. Once she decided not to follow the will of the voters, she should have been impeached.
     
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    To be fair, she probably is more like a moderate Democrat than a Republican. She probably just couldn't stomach some of the wacky more extreme things the Democrat Party has been doing recently. The Republican Party is filled with leaders who are more like moderate Democrats, so she probably fit right in.

    Either that or she is just another opportunistic politician who is following the path she believes will lead to the greatest personal opportunity and chances of getting reelected. Perhaps she had a falling out with representatives of her party and the Republicans made her a good offer.

    Supposedly, Cotham complained about not getting support from other Democrats. She says that Democrats drove her away. That she was bullied into supporting legislation and not given the opportunity to think freely.
    But who knows if that's the real actual reason. Some Democrats have some conspiracy theories.

    I'm guessing her district must have a lot of moderates, specifically moderate female voters, who would still support her even though she changed parties.
     
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    As a senator, Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 and signed into law by Bill Clinton.
     
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    Maybe off topic, but we could also talk about Supreme Court Justice Roberts, nominated by a Republican President in 2005 but then proceeded to mostly vote like a moderately progressive Democrat on the court.
     
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    The only thing I can say is she is not MEGA conservative. Although she did switch parties, much like Phil Gramm of Texas did in 1983 after being thrown off the House Budgetary Committee. So, either the state local Democratic Party did something stupid through the attacks on her Twitter account in which she decided to change party affiliation, or she was a conservative Democrat all along and decided it is best to switch parties now.

    but when she did run, she ran on protecting LGBTQ rights, protecting voting rights, and raising the minimum wage.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Things I suspect she will likely still support.
    (at least until her current term in office expires)
     
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    Anybody can say anything during a political campaign.... that's how America ended up with George Santos... and this lady..

    2024 will NOT be pretty for people like that... bank on it...
     
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    From the article I posted a link to about this story

    In January of this year, Cotham co-sponsored a bill to codify Roe v. Wade into state law, but Jillian Reilly, a lobbyist for Planned Parenthood South Atlantic, told the Times that Cotham refused to meet with the group and wouldn’t take its phone calls. House Democratic Party leader Robert Reives showed the Times text exchanges between him and Cotham that the paper characterized as friendly. “It never would have crossed my mind that she was having issues,” Reives said.

    Back in 2015, Cotham spoke on the House floor about her own medically necessary abortion for an ectopic pregnancy. After a leaked draft showed the Supreme Court was set to overturn Roe, she said on Twitter that she would be “unwavering and unapologetic” in her support of abortion rights. But after her party switch, she voted twice to ban abortion after 12 weeks, first to pass it and again to override the governor’s veto.

    What the the people thought she had to offer was support for abortion rights.

    Can you imagine the hue and cry that Republicans would have subjected us to if the situation had been reversed? If she had run as a Republican on an anti abortion platform, gave a teary eyed speech about how she decided to go through with her pregnancy despite the difficulty she would have raising the child. And then, five months after getting elected, she changed to the Democrats and voted to enshrine Roe v. Wade into NC state law?

    Read the article and then tell me how the voters "liked what she had to offer"
     
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