Democrat in Name Only

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  1. omni

    omni Well-Known Member

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    yes, as I senator, and then a decade later in 2012 during re-election, he voiced his support for gay marriage. He put his beliefs on the table for the voters to decide.

    He didn't do what this other politician did by hiding their true beliefs and tricking the voters. If she changed her mind and campaigned on it, then it's on the voters, but she campaigned on doing X, did Y, and some people think that's okay to trick the voters.
     
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    Unlike Republicans whose only strategy to reduce the abortion rate involves endangering the lives of young women
     
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    You ever think that there are such things as morals in all people. She probably varies some of these beliefs before she swapped sides.
     
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    Then she should have stepped down if she cannot faithfully represent the people who voted for her. That's the honorable thing to do.
     
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  5. omni

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    And lying to get elected only to switch sides and give us a speech about "morality" lol!
     
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    How do you know she ran on a platform that counterintuitive to her stance? Or do you think only the R or D matters?
     
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    Because she co-sponsored a bill that would have codified Roe into state law.

    I don't care if she switched parties. She should have stepped down or had a special election so the voters can elect someone who can truthfully represent them. Or do you support tricking voters as long as they switch to the republican party?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you clarify why you think she should have stepped down? Are you only saying this because she officially switched parties?
    Or do you have any specific legislation she voted on that you can point to?
     
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  9. mdrobster

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    That is politics today, but that said, each party does need to do their own research on their own candidates. At this level, a background check could or should have revealed something.
     
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    Sure. January of 2023 she was co-sponsor of a bill that permitted abortions up until fetal viability ~24 weeks. The a couple of months later votes for a bill banning abortion after 12 weeks.

    https://www.ncleg.gov/BillLookUp/2023/H19
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, thank you for showing an example.
    One possibility is she could have been pressured and coaxed by Democrats into voting for that earlier bill. It was kind of an extremist policy, some might say. Especially in that state. She did accuse Democrats of bullying her into voting for things.

    (Political parties have several ways of exerting lots of pressure to make representatives vote the way they want, which is another discussion)
     
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    maybe she want's to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, that is a republican thing
     
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    No, they cant. You cannot campaign with a specific platform, and then when you get in office do the exact opposite. Thats not. “Changing your mind”, that fraud worthy of impeachment. That doesn't happen by “accident”, thats purposeful because you know what the voters want, and when you do that you no longer represent the voters, you represent a lie.
     
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    If that’s the case I agree unless she has a reason for the change.
     
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    Apparently no one read the story I linked to.

    Not only did she run as a Democrat, she ran at the urging of the TOP REPUBLICANS in the NC Senate.
     
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    you just defined all politicians. Again, the point of the thread is...............????
     
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    Trump is a perfect example.

    He doesn't really believe in anything.
     
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    I read that but I didn’t read that she ran for or against abortion. Likewise democrats have also pushed people to run as republicans and have even financed some.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/20...aligned,, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Maryland.

    sounds to me that republicans may now be playing the same game in a different manner.
     
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    That will all depend on, for Rep Cotham's district, vote on who their nominee is for that district. She was definitely a quality candidate on the Dem's side, but if the Dem's put a progressive in there, then she will definitely have a better chance at winning that district.
     
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    Rep Cotham will more than likely modify her stances on those issues while still saying she supports those issues. I don't see her going full culture warrior here that the GOP is so destined to make it part of their platform.
     
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    not my thread, you tell me.
     
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    Political affiliation is FLUID, JUST LIKE GENDER!
    get with the times, sheesh!!
     
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    Switching parties between elections (in 97 days) of somebody serving only a 2 year term, after being encouraged to run as a D by her R friends, then lying to the voters about policies she claimed to support.

    Still a lot on the D's to not do a better job vetting her, but much like Charles Durning in Tootsie, they're going to check the next one out COMPLETELY! Head to Toe

    It pays big dividends to read that pesky OP....
     
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    so what?

    Do you think your Democrat party holds a monopoly on being virtuous? News flash- they make $174k per year, must keep 2 residences and become millionaires in a few years. Please do the math for me. It's not always the other politician who is corrupt or unsavory.
     
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    You cannot campaign with a specific platform, and then when you get in office do the exact opposite.
    Politicians do that all the time. It is certainly frustrating, but it happens far too often.
     

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