Drag queen Flamy Grant tops Christian music chart

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    If I were to challenge a trend theory I would want to see more than a two year comparison. That’s my only point.

    We wouldn’t accept that kind of data in any other case. I’m just curious why we would accept such a limited data set over the bare minimum of time comparisons in this case. We can’t determine a trend on anything with only two data points.

    I already read the study from the first link, hence my question.

    My first paragraph in my initial response was not directed at you specifically. I’m just not interested in anyone dismissing my question on the grounds I’m a transphobe or whatever. That seems to be the order of the day reading through this thread.
     
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    Then state that point instead of snarking
    Btw that original post was NOT about ME having to disprove social contagion theory but me asking another poster to confirm it. - which they have not done
     
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    With total BS
     
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    Still pretending you understand the minds of every human on earth.
    Even when s poster with life experience tells you different.
    Disgusting , to use your favorite word.

    You should not call others liars.
     
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    First: what in the world, makes you call this "hiding behind religion?" Do you doubt that she is a Christian? Because there are no Christian cross dressers, or transsexuals, or homosexuals? Your charge is ridiculous. I don't know if you are Christian but, if you are, I'll remind you, "Thou shalt not bear false witness (against thy neighbor)."

    Secondly, what negative affects are you worried about resulting, from a young person, seeing Flamy Grant in drag, at one of her concerts? It should go without saying, but I will point out that a Christian music singer, is not going to be indecently exposing herself, or himself. So all we are talking about, is a teenager, or perhaps a pre-teen (with their parents), seeing a man dressed in woman's clothes. If you are going to call that, damaging to our youth, then what is the solution? Should all cross dressers be rounded up, and gassed? Or, if we just made it illegal to go outside in drag, could they be trusted-- with long prison sentences, for even first time offenders, as an incentive to compliance?

    If our kids were that fragile, that merely seeing this would damage them, then we would already be a lost society. There is a world outside, where no one will find everything to be to their own, personal liking-- as we are all unique, so are not in complete agreement in our views, on many, many things. If your post is not meant as advocating war against all who are "different," from whatever you happen to consider normal-- in order to keep them out of sight of all who might be damaged, by merely catching sight of them-- then the logical second option, would be that you are in favor of our younger generation, growing up wearing blind folds, being the actual ones who are kept in hiding, from the realities of life, in a world with all sorts of people who, yet, have a right to live as they wish. This right is, of course, provided that they are not imposing upon others' rights, beyond their being out in public, where they can be seen-- you do not have the right to a view, in whichever direction you look, that always meets with your approval.


    Lastly, tell me what, if anything, you find "indoctrinating," or in any way objectionable, about this song. What evil is hidden inside the christian façade?

     
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    Thanks for admitting that you were dressing up in fancy outfits when you were a kid.

    [​IMG]

    https://vintagedancer.com/vintage/1920s-1930s-1940s-1950s-mens-western-wear/
     
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    I hope you are not choking on that massive DENIAL SANDWICH of yours! ;)
     
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    Is it any worse than sitting on the lap of any other man....like some guy dressed as Santa, and if so why?
     
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    Parents bring their kids to see santa, santa and his elves don't go to schools and start dry humping little kids under the guise of "story hour", yeah, there's a difference, nice try though. Santa and his elves also usually have much more clothes on. A for effort though! Keep trying! You'll get there with enough hard work and dedication!
     
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    So you obviously are not capable or unwilling of posting an honest or intelligent response so you post some fantasy of kids ( boys) who grew up in the 1950s of “dressing up in fancy outfits”. I hope that you get over your apparent desire or need to have fantasies about us Boomers.

    Us Boomers did not want or need “fancy” outfits because by 1965 many of us were given jungle fatigues and M-16s and the government invited us to “play” Army, Marines, Airmen, Sailors, or Coastguardsmen in a land far away. No we did not dress up in fancy outfits either as kids or as military members no matter what the fantasy bug in your mind tells you. Now I predict that you will attempt to twist and or otherwise post some fantasy and or untruth about my latest post.

    Stop posting MUS! Try intelligence and honesty it will serve you well in the long run.
     
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    Do you have any evidence the parents of the kids in that picture didn't know this was going to happen? Clear evidence please. Do you have evidence that people dressed as Santa don't just turn up at schools or other places where there are kids? Evidence please.

    I also didn't restrict my point to guys dressed as Santa - that was just an example. Would this be OK if those men were wearing the sort of clothes you think men should wear and if so why?

    What about parents who CHOOSE to take their kids to a drag queen story hour? Is that OK? Based on your logic, such as it is, it must be.

    So all that leaves is that the kids can see a bit of bare flesh. Arms, a bit of leg and a bit of chest. No worse than if a man was wearing a tank top and knee length sorts.

    I really hope these weren't your best arguments, because they are incredibly weak. In fact, if you strip back the anti-trans prejudice there is literally nothing there. Care to try again?
     
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    ...having just had to sit through a series of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion courses at work I'm supposed to celebrate the diversity of people that we have in our society now......still struggling though.....age thing I guess....anyway
     
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    Too bad only ONE of us is actually implementing that advice and I know that it isn't you.

    You consider reading to kids to be sick in your own post in this thread when EVERYONE with an ounce of intelligence and honesty knows that it just fun for EVERYONE involved in that picture.

    An intelligent and honest person would look INSIDE themselves to discover WHY they consider children's story hour to be "sick" for no better reason than the clothes that are being worn by the participants.

    What is actually SICK is what "men of the cloth" have done to children. That is heinous and despicable and we have CENTURIES of such abuse from them.

    But to YOU children's story hour is "sick" purely because of what is being worn! :eyeroll: There is NOTHING ELSE that it could be. What else is happening in that picture that is NOT in your mind and your mind alone?

    Sad!
     
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    As an old fart I can share the Cliff Notes version because it is very short.

    Don't be a dick to anyone else in the workplace.

    It helps to not be one outside of work but as long as it doesn't cost your employer money or reputation I don't think they care one way of the other.
     
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    LOL, your sad attempts to downplay erotic material for CHILDREN is noted. I could say the same thing about exotic dancers. "who cares? they have clam shells covering their nipples, all that leaves is the rest of their skin, no biggie"
    Condoning this for children is very sick

    To your other question, sure! If parents are that dumb and twisted then their kids are most likely a lost cause anyway.

    What's your next bright idea? Softcore porn for kids? "you only see a body moving up and down, no privates are showing, no biggie"

    As I said.....................SICK!
     
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    WTF?

    There is NOTHING erotic in that picture!

    Whatever kind of Xtofascist INDOCTRINATION convinces anyone that reading to children wearing a dress is "erotic" has to come from a perverted mindset.
     
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    With truth, which in your opinion, is bs.
     
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    7 straight days? Lol. Not so straight.
     
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    You attempted to portray us Boomers as some sort of
    You thought you were going to get a quick insult in by posting some fantasy you have about us kids specifically boys in the 1950’s dressing up like drag queens. That did not happen.
    You are attempting to portray men dressing up in women’s clothes to read to young children as something normal or benign. You know that it is not normal and very likely confusing for the children since I am sure their fathers, grandfathers, uncles do not do such at best strange things.

    I did not in in my posts in any way mention “men of the clothe” and there sick ass criminal behavior of pedophilia. As a. aggressive of fact I had posted more than once that especially in the Catholic Church is where homosexuals have hidden and have committed acts of pedophilia. Of course not all but a high percent of them did and yes it was known by Church administration and ignored and or protected.

    The “ clothes” worn by those who read to little kids are important because the visual display is how children identify what the readers are.

    A man playing the role of Santa Clause is obviously identified by his clothes or costume if you must. Trying to verbally describe a person as being Santa Clause to little kids will be met with derision from the little ones and rightfully so.
     
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    I am in complete harmony with the medical profession who has determined at my birth that I am a human male.
     
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    "What does it say when a computer understands religion better than some religious people? And other users were quick to point that out".



    'ChatGPT wrote a Bible verse about Jesus accepting trans people & it's gone viral'

    "A transgender Reddit user found some spiritual encouragement from an unlikely source, but it has the internet enraptured.

    “I was feeling sad today so I asked chat gpt to write a fake biblical passage about Jesus accepting trans people,” user Psychological_Dog527 wrote in the trans subreddit. The result has gone viral with thousands of likes on Reddit and graphics shared on other social media sites.

    "And a woman, whose heart was divided between spirit and body, came before him. In quiet despair, she asked,’Lord, I come to you estranged, for my spirit and body are not one. How shall I hope to enter the kingdom of God?’

    Jesus looked upon her with kindness, replying, ‘my child, blessed are those who strive for unity within themselves, for they shall know the deepest truths of my Father’s creation. Be not afraid, for in the kingdom of God, there is no man nor woman, as all are one in spirit. The gates of my Father’s kingdom will open for those who love and are loved, for God looks not upon the body, but the heart.'
     
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    Nope, I consider this nonsense total BS.
     
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    The music video was pretty good. Enjoying the MAGA tears.
     
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    So, they may get some correct.
    But, brain scans aren't done at birth. So, not all are correct.
     
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    Based upon statistics I have seen, most conservatives view standing against the LGBTQ community as a low priority. Many simply don’t care if one is LGBTQ. I think the outrage we see on social media and the partisan media is an example of a minority making a lot of noise. Liberal stereotypes of the political right do not help.

    Conservative America is not as unified on the issue as many on the left and center may think. I am not sure many conservatives even understand just how diverse conservatives are.
     
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