DHS to offer work permits, deportation protection to over 470,000 Venezuelans amid new border surge

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And with the stroke of a pen, Biden & Co just gave amnesty and deportation protection to half a million illegals.

    The illegals already in this country are phoning home to tell their amigos how easy it is to get into America and then their city of choice - cities which don't want them. Biden's latest action will now have even more illegals come here.

    This was Biden's plan all along. Obama hated American exceptionalism and Biden is going to make sure he drags us down to where we're the third world country Obama really wanted us to be.

    I'll ask this once again; why did so many people from around the world start coming here the moment Biden took office?

     
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    Forget the whole crime family thing, he swore an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution, and nowhere in there did it say 'bring down the US borders and the legal immigration requirements by law'. Impeaching him over this, is the exact same standard as the first Trump impeachment.
     
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    And yet it’s extremely entertaining to watch liberal cities squeal as their teetering nanny state house of cards start to fall like dominoes.

    there is no better sound than liberals getting an education. A real education.
     
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    Union members should not be happy with this. The labor market will be flooded which will drive down overall wages. Low skilled worker will be more adversely affected.
     
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    The progressives might get to understand, first hand, how drones, who don’t work and often commit crimes are a burden on society. The elites who now live on the upper east side of Manhattan wouldn’t be able to ship the problem elsewhere as they did on Martha’s Vineyard. The cops, whom the elite progressives despise, won’t be there to keep the riff-raff out of their neighborhood.
     
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    Highlighted in red: that was not Obama's idea. His plan was to improve things in South and Central American countries so people would not want to migrate to the US or be eligible under the rules.
    As to the meat and potatoes of the post. I would implore you read other reports about this action. Sounded like a bad idea at first, but it only applies to those already here, and not to future immigrants. It is being done to alleviate the problem of these immigrants not being able to work and earn money to live off of, leaving them homeless, which is causing a huge problem all over the US. Let them work, earn money, and they'll be much less likely to live under bridges or in tent cities or to turn to crime to survive.
    Overall, it makes sense.
     
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    Obama’s biographer said he hated American exceptionalism.

    And while this decision applies to those already here we all know that in time it will also apply to everyone who’s on their way here and it’s an incentive for even more to come here.

    If the illegals phoned home and told them how much it sucks to be here then that might stop some of them from trying.
     
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    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    I tried over the last five days to get an oil change for my vehicle. Stopped 7 times, mostly in a conservative voting area, but tried two places in a more blue area. The problem? Not enough workers. No one to get the job done. Moved on deeper into a blue area, found a place and had to pay $125 for an oil change (had my own filter) and an air filter.
    Almost every business in this region is low on workers.
    Last week, a crew put a new roof on my neighbors house. Temps in the 90's. They did it one day and did a good job, and cleaned up after themselves.
    Don't know if any were here illegally, but they spoke a lot of Spanish to each other. Hispanic workers are the best workers in this area, and the long term Americans don't want to work.
    I don't agree with all the immigration policies, but Americans need to up their work ethic A LOT. They do have an effect.
     
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    They are getting temporary protective status by executive order. all perfectly legal under the law which was passed in 1990.
     
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    Comrade Biden to the rescue.... When do we suppose that our free press is going to call Biden on his active attempts to undermine our nation?
     
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    For whatever reason, democrats do love having slaves... I suppose it's what makes them feel entitled and elite....
     
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    American exceptionalism was invented when we had a manifest destiny and applied to Alexander Torqueville's infamous book when he toured America in the 1820s and 30s. It became even more popular in the 1920s when communist ideas were spreading among the working poor. and then it became part of American history in the 1950s and onward.

    Postnationalist scholars reject the idea of American Nationalism. Obama, in a 2009 question and answer session was asked about American Exceptionalism. Obama stated, "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. I see no contradiction between believing that America has a continued extraordinary role in leading the world towards peace and prosperity and recognizing that leadership is incumbent, depends on, our ability to create partnerships because we can't solve these problems alone." Does not sound like hate to me, does it.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-28-oe-kirchick28-story.html
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/04/AR2009040400700.html
     
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    Blame democrats and their COVID BS... Not enough workers doesn't mean that someone who doesn't speak english or has more than a 3rd grade education is going to be able to get a job fixing your oil change demands... Perhaps you could try making an actual appointment... never mind... And just be grateful your oil change isn't 3K.... If you got out for $125, I'd say be happy.
     
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    It is not covid. We are having a lot of baby boomers retiring. There are not enough young people to fill those positions, and yet, the unemployment rate is still low. We do see some of the problems in Alabama and Florida where there is literally a work shortage for agricultural workers because of the anti-immigrant laws passed there. And why food prices are rising faster than the national average in those regions compared to the rest of the country.

    For trade jobs, it takes two years to train someone on car mechanics and so forth. Companies like Valvoline and others pride themselves on the persons who are certified to do this type of job. And yes, there is a certification for this type of job. Can't get the job of changing oil otherwise, and these companies are not in the business of educating either.
     
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    Highlighted in red: This has been an issue long before COVID, but good try at pointing blame at the wrong target.
    Not sure what the application the rest of your post had.
     
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    Slaves work cheap which pleases the corporations. If the Democrats can supply the corporations with cheap labor, the corporations will support the Democrats.

    As much as I prefer market forces to government regulations, I know that capitalism can be amoral. No system is perfect, but I’ll take chances with many sellers who are out please me than all powerful government which is dedicated to maintaining control.
     
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    Are they bums who don’t work or are they gonna drive down wages? Lol it can’t be both
     
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    They’re already here, except now they won’t have to work under the table.
     
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    So confusing when righties tell is how evil socialism is, and also wanna send innocent people back to suffer.
     
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    Oh yes it can! Do you lump all illegals in one group? I might also add the criminal element, which will become a growing problem.
     
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    Yes, socialism solves all problems, right? There will be no poor and no want? I wonder what what happened in Venezuela? I wonder why all of those illegals are leaving their “worker’s’ paradises” in South America?
     
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    You’ll have to ask a socialist. Seems like a shithole to me.
     
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    Since support the Socialist Democrat Party, you should be the expert.
     
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    Maybe learn to service our own preventative maintenance needs? Although the work ethics bit made me grin ;)
     
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    So much for Democrats so-called concern for the working Man.

    Where does this traitorous moron think he gets the authority for this?

    And on a somewhat related topic.... If America is such a bad and racist country it's kind of hard to tell by all the people around the world wanting to be here.
     
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