What's so great about Diversity?

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Trans obsession content noted.
     
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    avoiding reality again noted-your posts are filled with attacks on Trump, Christians and the NRA. why?
     
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    IQ isn't the thing.

    Wisdom is the thing.

    It took high IQs to develop the atomic bomb.

    Was it a wise idea?

    I doubt the Japanese will agree.
     
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    I would say diversity of ideas is a very close #2 on the benefits list of diversity. Maybe even a subcategory of benefit #1, which essentially is freedom. Of course, that necessarily includes ideas we find offensive, just like it does food we find offensive and activities we find offensive.
     
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    This is largely meaningless.
    What IQ tests?
    What is the significance of the results?
    Who writes the test?
    And more significantly what on earth makes such a distinction 'important'?
    Important why?

    I wonder what the spurious IQ test results would be between Donald Trump, Nelson Mandela, and Mao Tse Tung would be?
    Or Ai Wei Wei, Beatrice Wanjiku and Jasper Johns?
     
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    I have a low opinion of the Negro race for reasons I have discussed. I have a high opinion of individual Negroes who meet my mild standards.
     
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    I have a low opinion of you for this comment.
     
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    Not really for a few reasons. It's apples and oranges because despite what some say, the results of an IQ test are not entirely innate. The ability to navigate such a test also depends on education and experience with test-taking. Obviously, the culture, resources, and upbringing of Japan and China are better geared towards IQ tests than areas of Africa. A second issue is that IQ scores are normally distributed, meaning that even if the average were lower for Ethiopia, there would still be some who are far smarter by IQ than the vast majority of asians. So you can't reliably predict results by ethnicity. Thirdly, it only measures certain dimensions of intelligence.

    Developing it was wise to have the "good guys" in control of the powerful technology. Had we not developed it, others would have, and then it would have been out of US hands and potentially in less stable hands that have an absolute trump card had we not been in possession of that technology. Not that he was close, but had Hitler been the first to develop it, he probably could have won and definitely would have killed millions more. Actually using it as it was used was not wise, though, as anything more than a superficial review of the circumstances would reveal.
     
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    I think that the argument is actually more basic than that.

    If Americans didn't make the bomb, the germans would have, granted on that point, but my point wasn't about good guys and bad guys, it was just about the bomb.

    Americans got the bomb to stay ahead of the germans, but in it's development, realized it could be used to end the war in the pacific.

    But none of that changes the fact that development of the bomb, BY EITHER SIDE, in terms of making the world safer, wasn't wise. The world now lives in a fear that never existed before it's development.

    Are we, as people of the world, wise for doing it?

    I don't think so.
     
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    Wisdom is also knowing that somebody would though. It's not wise to assume others will be wise. The risk can be mitigated with countermeasures or worldwide regulation, but in the days of Stalin and Hitler, there were people willing to sacrifice millions, including their own people, for their own agendas. In the early days of rocketry, there were no good countermeasures.
     
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    ..... and sexism, genderism, sexual orientationism, etc. The current woke crowd are adamantly opposed and intolerant of white people, which is as racist as one can be.
     
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    Rewards are given after they are EARNED... not before. Have you ever been rewarded for something you haven't done yet? I haven't.
     
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    My argument's viewpoint is a collective one, not an anecdotal one.
     
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    Watch me not care.

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    The woksters are also intolerant of opinions they do not like. They oppose diversity of opinions.
     
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    How can somebody wanting to be awake to threat because of the colour of their skin be said to be intolerant opinions they don’t like?
     
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    That's not what he meant by wokester.
     
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    Not at all, we oppose stupid, ignorant ones.
     
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    Are you UNAWARE that your Traitor-in-Chief has been CHARGED with 91 CRIMINAL felonies?

    Are you UNAWARE that the Xtofascists published a MANIFESTO to USURP the government of We the People in 2025?

    Are you UNAWARE that the GOP/NRA gun culture is a from of DOMESTIC TERRORISM that is destroying our nation?

    Most NORMAL Americans are sickened and disgusted by ALL of the above.

    Your turn...WHY do YOU embrace and support ALL of those UNAMERICAN people and their nefarious agendas stipulated above?
     
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    I would not call Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and Professor's Richard Herrnstein, Arthur Jensen, and J. Philippe Rushton ignorant. Woksters try to suppress their ideas because they cannot refute them.
     
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    Maybe people define the term on the hoof to suit whatever they want it to, with no regard to the original meaning.
    If a person uses the word 'woke' I return to what it actually means, otherwise you end up second guessing a lot of meaningless noise.
     
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    The things that contribute directly toward the 'greatness' of any nation include unity, prosperity, competition, and MERIT! Any nation is already as 'diverse' as its population-base... it's silly to obsess about it.

    The 'inclusiveness' aspect should be determined by an individual's energy, focus, perseverance, and MERIT! When you achieve relative 'greatness' in any field, you are 'included'! An attribution of 'greatness' cannot and must not be 'conferred' by any form of political-correctness.
     
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    the several hundred thousand US military members and the ten million Japanese that would have died in an invasion probably do. My uncle was one of the sailors who was rigging the Anti aircraft artillery on the battleship Missouri so they could fire at ground level-the thinking being that these heavy ships would be used to suppress and eliminate ground fire in support of an invasion. By then the Japanese were issuing spear and obsolete small arms to women, children and men too old to have already served as militia to oppose the expected invasion.
     
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    Woke people are sanctimonious hypocrites. They advocate diversity, but they are opposed to the most important diversity of all, which is diversity of opinion. They think people like Charles Murray should not be allowed to express their opinions. They want those of us who agree with Charles Murray should not be allowed to express our agreements with him.

    If I was a high school civics teacher I would want to assign my class to read the following fact based and rational essay,

    http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

    Unfortunately, woke people would not allow me to. They think one should not be allowed to draw attention to average but durable racial differences.
     
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    If somebody is not respectful of your opinions, that is nothing to do with 'woke', it is to do with not being respectful of your opinion.
     
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