Is America a Christian Nation? Should America Be a Christian Nation?

Science can strengthen faith. Exploring creation is a good way to approach our creator.

 

I know who Spinoza's God is. I'm less interested in that than I am in who Einstein's God is because that is the issue here, Yes, Einstein said he believed in Spinoza's God but throughout his life he said a whole lot more than that about his beliefs. The whole of his discussions over his lifetime is needed to understand Einstein's understanding of God, and no one can be certain he has a full understanding of Einstein's beliefs other than he did not believe in the God of the Bible.

 

Life from non-life is a fallacy.
As well, there is no "empirical" evidence for any type of "evolution" (though natural selection is proven) to support your "Godlessness" yet you deny it is faith and purport it as fact, therefore, I too am done with you.

 

There is evidence of evolution. You are not a biologist or, more specifically, an evolutionary biologist. The fact that you don't understand the evidence does not mean it does not exist.

It is called "The Theory of Evolution" BECAUSE there is overwhelming evidence in favor of it. You need to understand what the word "theory" means in a scientific context.

 

Yes, I think it's a common treatment of the bible.

 

I have a "theory" that a single cell does not "evolve" into a complex, many organ life system. Mutations are far more likely to "devolve"....that is my theory.

 

Do you assert that evolution has a bias towards increasing complexity? It does not. Mutations are random. The survival of complex or not complex life is based on natural selection.

Do you have any evidence to support your theory of devolution?

 

It’s not a SCIENTIFIC theory. At BEST you have a hypothesis (actually all you really have is a proposition, it’s not even at the hypothesis level yet).

Again you need to understand what a SCIENTIFIC theory is.

 

The corvid virus as we know it was highly contagious. We witnessed it devolve into several new viruses, less contagious and less threatening. It is not difficult to prove but difficult to convince someone who has taken the Theory of Evolution and embraced it as a "Religion".
I have never seen any evidence to support your "faith" in the theory of evolution.

Explain then....,

 

You assume that "evolution" means "progress". Not true. In biology, "evolution" means "change". Viruses, even when changing into less dangerous variants, are evolving, not devolving.

 

We have a play on words here. Sure you can call them "evolving" but those viruses are on their way out.....becoming less successful. So I am using the argument that they will never "evolve" into a human being, with multiple organs and a complex brain that contemplates always, "where do we go from here?" There is a spirit breathed into mankind that contemplates an intelligent higher being. You can add trillions of years, it doesn't matter, 2+2 will always =4, likewise life does not come from non-life.

 

Who claimed that a virus would evolve into a human being?

 

Darwin for starters. Didn't life supposedly begin as a single cell then "evolve" according to the illusionists?

 

Viruses require a host to survive. It seems unlikely that a virus existed before complex life did. It wouldn’t fit the definition of virus if it did.

Im definitely not very educated on the topic but I do know that viruses weren’t defined until about 30 years after The Origin of Species was written so I doubt Darwin made such a claim.

 

A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be (or a fortiori, that has been) repeatedly tested and corroborated in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment. In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.

Evolution works based on "survival". An organism better suited for survival is able to procreate more offspring with it's genetic makeup and thus survive better as a species. Your statement that the COVID virus "devolved" to become less lethal just exposes your misunderstanding of what evolution is. The "purpose" of the COVID virus is not to kill people. Thus it's evolution does not mean it's going to get better at doing that. Evolution's "goal" is survival. A virus that does NOT kill the host is going to survive longer than one that does. Thus "evolving" into a less lethal strain actually improves it's ability to survive and is going to lead to more strains having that genetic make up.

 

COVID is not becoming "less successful", it's becoming MORE successful.

Success simply means surviving longer. Passing that survival mechanism on to later generations. NOT killing the host makes it more successful.

 

Life is life....no comparison to non life.

 

It has less ability to propagate. Perhaps there are now "transviruses!" LOL

 

Where do you get the idea that it has LESS ability to propagate?

 

Well I'll leave out any scientific lingo and just use common sense. When people are hacking coughing and sneezing, they propel the virus into the atmosphere infecting other hosts. That is how they propagate. On these new forms of the virus the symptoms are much milder. Do you think they reproduce in any way close to the original? I don't. Mutations seldom move forward in a positive direction for the virus. That is why I say they devolve opposed to evolve. Evolution is a hoax!

 

Yeah, lets just "leave out any scientific lingo" when discussing science. That's the way to go.

Milder symptoms does not mean less propagation. There are other ways than coughing and sneezing.

Milder symptoms means less chance the host would isolate. Simply putting your hand near your nose and then touching someone else can propagate the virus.

Do they reproduce in any close to the original? You don't think so? Well that settles it. Let's just go with the wishful thinking of the guy who wants to "leave out any scientific lingo" when discussing the subject. I'm sure he knows far better than any of those elitist eggheads with their hoity toity degrees and stuff !!

 

Parasites that are too aggressive in killing their hosts have a problem reproducing in the long term. Theirfore, parasites EVOLVE to become milder and not kill the host. In fact, over the long term many parasites EVOLVE to benefit their hosts. Your so called common sense has nothing to do with science or the scientific method. Even if you have never taken a science class, this subject has been a pretty common topic of discussion in the mass media with respect to influenza and the like.

 

the longer the host lives, the more they can reproduce.... they evolve

 

I don't think so. Evolution is entirely controlled by God.

He created the laws according to which evolution has to work. And He never makes mistakes. By studying nature and evolution, we can come closer to God. And He wants us to recognize and have faith.

 

when the host dies they are toast. They need to infect more hosts. Without that, they devolve.