Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    Very competent. It shows that even the prisoners of the Jewish concentration camp in Palestine are ready to fight for their rights against the Jewish occupiers who are many times superior to them.
    By the way, Pakistan's Chief of General Staff: "If Israel launches a ground operation against the Gaza Strip, we will support Hamas with ballistic missiles".
     
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    LOL no one gives a **** about Pakistan. I doubt it even has the capability to strike Israel.
    You DO realize the most powerful naval fleet on the planet is on station right? Pakistan is going to sit there and talk ****, its not going to DO anything.
    Even if it did, its so feckless its not anything to fear.

    Further: Its not competent to destroy your own infrastructure to make unguided rockets that absolutely will do nothing but piss off your far superior enemy.
     
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    You urgently need to go to Israel to fight.
    It appears that Hezbollah has opened a second front in northern Israel. Artillery and mortars are constantly working on the Lebanese-Israeli border, northern Israel is preparing for bombing, civilians are being urged to take refuge in bunkers, the country's third largest city, Haifa, is under fire, and there are reports of gunfire in Dimona, where Israel's nuclear facilities are located. Hezbollah has reportedly seized a kibbutz on the Lebanese-Israeli border. The US evacuated the country's embassy in Beirut and advised its citizens to leave Lebanon.
     
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    huh?
    your post 1388 predates it.
    Not my fault you post the same crap twice.
     
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    Many people live by stereotypes of past wars. One immediately thinks of the 2008-2009 Gaza massacre, Operation Cast Lead, when the IDF attempted to destroy Hamas' military infrastructure through not only bombing, but also a ground operation in Gaza. There was then also a blockade of the region.
    The operation lasted more than three weeks, Israel certainly won, but can we talk about achieving the goal? Hamas has not gone anywhere, and most of those who died on the Palestinian side were civilians.
    And now, 15 years later, Hamas enters the war again, it should be noted, much better prepared (generously armed with NATO weapons resold to Ukraine).
    If Hamas had about 20,000 men fighting in the last war, how many can they field this time? According to The Military Balance, Hamas has about 20,000 men in its combat brigades. However, other studies put the numbers as high as 40,000. That's not counting how many people they could mobilize from the Gaza Strip if they launch a ground operation there.
    What would happen if Hezbollah joined Hamas?
    "Hezbollah" is, again, according to various, unconfirmed, data, from ten to 30 thousand fighters. And if Hamas is mostly infantry with light weapons, drones and homemade rockets, then Hezbollah has mortars, SAMs, PTRKs, barrel and rocket artillery, Iranian-made anti-ship missiles, and according to some reports, even Iranian operational-tactical missile systems with a range of up to 200 kilometers, which can hit the center of Israel. In addition, according to unconfirmed reports, the group has Iranian M-600 surface-to-surface missiles and Soviet Scuds.
    Perhaps not the most formidable weapon, but far more serious than what Hamas has.
    In 2006 and during the Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah fought alone for a month against superior IDF forces. And these are not all who can take part in a war against Israel.
    Forces from Iraq and Syria will come to the rescue.
    "The actions of the United States or any other country against the Palestinian people will be met with a strong military response by the resistance," said Akram al-Kaabi, secretary general of Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba, an Iraqi Shiite group with up to ten thousand fighters.
    Another Iraqi paramilitary group, al-Hashd al-Shaabi, has also declared its support for the invasion of Israel by Hamas and its readiness to come to the rescue.
    Let me remind you that in Iraq during the war against ISIS, the Popular Mobilization Forces were created, uniting about 40 groups with a total strength of up to 100,000 people. Most of them are now in Syria and could easily join the war with Israel.
    However, Israel has already struck airfields in Damascus and Aleppo. According to Palestinian media reports, the aim was to prevent an Iranian plane from landing. What or who was on that plane was not specified. The strikes in Syria may also be a warning to Bashar al-Assad not to engage, send or facilitate Shiite fighters traveling to Israel from his territory. In the end, however, nothing prevents them from entering from Lebanese territory if the latter is already at war with Israel. Thus, Israel may get three fronts at once: southern, northern and northeastern.
    According to various reports, the number of fighters of such formations varies from 30 to 50 thousand people, well armed and with serious combat experience in the wars in Iraq and Syria.
    There are many more willing to fight with Israel
    Yemen's Ansar-Allah (Houthis), who are also ready to send 20,000 to 50,000 fighters to help Palestine, have also announced their readiness to help. However, it is much more difficult for them to get to the theater of military operations, because they have no border with Israel. According to information circulated in the media, they allegedly managed to persuade the Saudi authorities to allow their fighters to pass through.
    It is even more difficult for the Afghan Taliban, who have also asked the authorities of Iran, Iraq and Jordan to allow them to help Palestine, to declare their readiness to support Hamas.
    In any case, even without counting them, up to a hundred thousand people may gather in support of Hamas. And they are not armed with small arms and homemade rockets and have a tremendous experience of many years of warfare.

    Of course, this force is hardly capable of crushing Israel, but it is quite capable of causing it very serious problems with the transfer of a significant part of the hostilities to its territory.

    Tehran has been building the so-called Axis of Resistance around Israel for many years, and it is a serious enough force, even without Iran itself, which, by the way, has perhaps the most powerful army in the Middle East (610,000 active troops and 350,000 reservists).
    The main intrigue is whether Iran itself will join the war, because this could lead to American intervention and provoke, if not World War III, then the largest regional war in history.

    And by the way, all this military-political tangle does not take into account the capabilities of Arab countries, which in the past years have always formed an anti-Israeli coalition. So far, they prefer to remain neutral, but what if the genocide in Gaza becomes absolutely unacceptable for them, what if their own population literally demands to protect their Arab brothers, which is now happening in street demonstrations? Which only tells us that Israel will win with a lot of blood.
     
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    Yes, and during that operation, they didn't follow through. I don't think you're going to see a lack of follow-through here. They've already told over a million people to beat feet. I don't think they'll let them return.
    Hezbollah joining wouldn't matter, they have neither the numbers nor the technology.



    You DO remember what happened when the Arabs formed a multinational coalition the last time right? The Israeli's ended up with extra land.
     
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    It's not my fault you posted this:

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    So much for your "Oh, so now you've even replied to a post that didn't exist when you replied to it."
    And your post remains Racist nonsens as posted in 1397, that doesn't come with some kind of dispute from you.
    Have a nice joowday or something. Yeah I can lower my self to your standards.
     
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    If I made it up, you could refute it. If you could refute it, you would have done so.

    You can't so you are resorting to dodges and diversions.
     
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    Fake news.
     
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    Allah will draw Gaza into the gates of hell.
    Tonight Gaza will burn in memory of those -

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    i really do wonder if the israelis are allowing children to fight..
     
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    That's what you claimed - you replied to a post that came 23 posts later.

    LOL

    Your post is racist nonsense for interjecting race into something that has nothing to do with race. Palestinians are a nationality, just as Jordanians are a nationality.

    Facts are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!! :cynic: lol

    Actually, you would be lowering yourself to Khaled Marshal's standards. Here he is now:

    JIHAD DAY.jpg

    Global Day of Jihad
    Friday 13 October 2023 is a Global Day of Jihad called for by Hamas leader Khaled Mashal, amid the 2023 Israel–Hamas war that Hamas initiated on 7 October.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Day_of_Jihad[/QUOTE]
     
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    So you are taking the position that Christians, Jews, Americans, gay people, and those critical of religion/government are thriving in the surrounding region?

    Challenge accepted. Lets start with Jews and Christians. Please show me where these people are allowed to live in peace in the Muslim controlled countries.

    Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East – report
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-driving-christians-out-of-middle-east-report

    Jewish exodus from the Muslim world
    31 languages
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world


     
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    I replied to post 1397, and you repeated that post I already replied to 23 posts later.

    I already made a comment that this aint so. Russians and Poles are both Slavic, but they are their own ethnic group in that family tree. Same thing flies for Palestinians.
    All you got going is racist nonsense.

    Nope. Them are your standards.
    Have a nice joowday or something.
     
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    Your ignorance is almost hard to believe.
    Israel is a racist, apartheid state that deserves the same fate as White South Africa and Nazi Germany.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-police-jerusalem-march-palestinians-rcna85018
     
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    There is something to be said how nuts you are when you haul some caravans with some buddies, across the border, drive up some hill and claim the lands as an extension of your homeland... at the expense of a population that already hostile to you because it's not exactly the first time this happens. And they take their children with them as human shields. And when you're THAT nuts, than it's not such a deal to use your children to help defend what you thieved.

    I mean. If some gang from Mexico would cross the border into the US, and claim a part of Texas to be Mexico, and got all these weapons to fend American civilians away. Than the US would drone those thugs dead 10 times over, no questions asked and nobody would think it's odd.
     
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    Racist is an inaccurate description. Tribal is a far more accurate description. This is why Israel doesn't mind treating the Palestinians the same way the Germans treated the Poles.

    I think they are going to slaughter thousands of Palestinian civilians in the coming weeks and months while everyone sticks their heads in the sand and ignores it.
     
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    Yet Arab-Israelis are happy living there. (As well as Christians, atheists, Americans, gay people, and those critical of religion/government.) Where are Jews living happy lives in the surrounding region?

    The pot is calling the kettle a nazi!
     
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    Hate creates blindness.
     
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    "Spitting, hitting attacks on Christians are surging"

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wqsBegQIDRAG&usg=AOvVaw3Su07MzTkuqgKTRWQh5xX4

    "Christians in the Holy Land say they’re under attack as Israeli-Palestinian violence soars
    Church officials and Christian leaders in Israel blame a minority of Jewish extremists for the attacks. They say Israel’s far-right government has fostered a culture of impunity.

    But church officials and Christian leaders in Israel say this was far from an isolated incident. As tensions over Jewish and Muslim holy sites have erupted in recent weeks, spiraling into violence between Israelis and Palestinians, Christians in the Holy Land say they’re under attack, too."
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw15Z5dFkDVmzIlMepYZ5MDP
     
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    I am aware of this and it is disgusting. I never said that Israel is beyond criticism. I take their side because I could go there and not be burned to death or beheaded for being an atheist, American.
     
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