Trump threatens to leave NATO

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  1. Ronstar

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    You can be sure Russia, China, Iran.... all our foes will be spending a lot of money in propaganda on the next election cycle.to get him elected.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely.
     
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    Leave it to Trump to help destabilize the world even further.
     
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    The second we leave NATO, Russia will overrun Ukraine.

    The Baltic states will be next.
     
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    So Trump is threatening to leave NATO, repeat, THREATENING if they don't pay their fair share which is a concept every lib on this board understands and repeats ad nauseam.

    If NATO countries are so unconcerned about their own defense, then why are libs here freaking out?
     
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    I don't think so but they will be thrilled to hear about his plan. A plan that was blocked during his previous admin and will be blocked again in the Senate if the worst happens.
     
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    We don't pay dues to NATO. Neither do the other NATO countries. And we aren't spending on our own military just because we think that the other NATO countries aren't spending enough on theirs.
     
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    Trump is not president.

    And yet another fake news article with "according to two sources" AGAIN... this fake news unnamed anonymous source garbage is getting old...

    @Ronstar
    If you can't use reliable credible news sources and only rely on fake news with unverifiable source you are just posting misinformation and propaganda...
     
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    I will never vote for this guy again. He’s making it easier to vote for democrats. I will not support someone who is an isolationist
     
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    Anyone who studies the economic effects of a secure world would never vote for someone who is actively pushing isolationism.
     
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    I was going to comment on the Rolling Stone angle and ask if there was a more informative article in Field & Stream.
     
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    It's the Biden administration that has Iranian agents working in the DOD.
     
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    US taxpayers have been getting ass raped by a majority of NATO members for decades.....and here comes the chorus of ass-rape lovers complaining about Trump using common sense.

    NATO is a tool used by the MIC to grift American taxpayers with forever wars. If ever a light bulb goes off in your head, at least understand what NATO is. You are a lot poorer because of NATO.
     
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    I 100% agree with his first point
    I 100% disagree with his second point

    He admires dictators, it’s unsurprising that he wants to aid them.
     
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    Why should we protect NATO countries?

    Why do we bear the overwhelming majority of that cost and responsibility?

    In fact, after saving Europe's ass twice, we should have gotten about 50 years of free membership.

    We are taken advantage of. It needs to stop.
     
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    Oh, I remember this silly type of posts when he was running the first time. "If Trump gets elected he will start WWIII!"

    What we actually witnessed was quite the opposite.

    Then, comes along Biden, and the claim seems much more plausible.

    Yet here we are with the silly posts.
     
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    The US spends the amount necessary to ensure ability to prevent aggression and protect our interests. More importantly, our spending is mostly to DISCOURAGE aggression.

    We show our force often saying "don't do that", and usually that works.

    If our allies funded appropriately, we could absolutley spend less. But they don't. Never have.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/...pending-2-of-gdp-on-defence-to-jump-this-year
     
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    Nobody is forcing us to have as big a military as we do. We could reduce our military spending by 50% and we would still be members of NATO.
     
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    What are Trump's demands? Because the last time he was at the table, he was trying to tell NATO to smarten up because he knew what Putin was wanting to do and then finally did...
     
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    Trump wants NATO to stop seeing an attack on one member as an attack on all members.
    Which of course is a cornerstone of any mutual defense treaty.
     
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    Maybe this will convince his minions to leave this bozo who might be going as senile as Biden. He’s 78 years old. He needs to retire. Learn to live with it.
     

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