Jews should be armed

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Oct 28, 2023.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems like Jews are starting to wise up about the need to possess guns to protect themselves their families and their community.

    I have owned guns for more than a decade, not necessarily for self-defense but with what's going on in the Middle East and now and all these Hamas supporters and Neo-Nazis I'm glad I am an armed and can defend myself and my family.

    A couple of days ago a Hamas supporter i my county was arrested for possessing illegal guns while driving around in a car covered in swastikas. He said he was trying to educate people but I think he was probably going to harm people.

    Makes me wish it was easier to conceal carry in New York state, I guess if I wanted to I could really get it done but it's a lot of work. At least I know my home is protected.

    During world war II the Jews did not really defend themselves, we simply went wherever the Nazis told us to go, hoping for the best. And we all know how wonderfully that turned out.

    Never Again.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so all the citizens of Israel or just Jews?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    an interesting change of position. goes along with a post I made a week or two ago.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im talking about Jews in the USA and other countries.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    which makes sense but I am sure you are aware that most of the leading gun banning groups in the USA have a rather strong number of Jews in leadership or sponsorship positions with Bloomberg and Soros being two of the biggest donors to gun banning operations.
     
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    Soros and Bloomberg likely have armed body guards.
     
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    we allow all Americans to be armed, regardless of Religion...
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay but some people clearly are bigger targets than others. Right now all Jews have a giant Target on their back.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, American Palestinians and American Jews seem to be at risk right now - crazy

    regardless what side one supports, no reason for violence here, makes no sense

    but your right, they would maybe be wise to buy a gun
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are. The ones that want to own a gun just needed to apply. The suitable ones would have passed their gun laws.

    Do you disagree with that? Ukrainian citizens have guns too, so you believe the civilians have fought the Russian army off?

    America has the 2ndA, why didn't you guys stop 9/11?

    You guys are armed with millions of guns, look at the dreadful gun stats.

    Do you think there's a flaw in your logic?
     
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    is anyone attacking Americans of Palestinian heritage or citizenship in the USA?
     
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    Its a good idea to have a gun or guns at home in case someone breaks in. From what I am reading, the Jewish community leaders are arranging firearms training, which is great. Its important to not just to buy a gun, but also get trained to use it.

    Of course it someone, like a neo-nazi, is out to kill you, they are likely be armed too, so being aware of your surroundings and avoiding protests and riots should be a priority as well.
     
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    According to this article, Israelis are adopting American-style armed individualism but not necessarily for the better:

    "Partner shootings, homicides, gun suicides, accidental shootings and mass shootings have been remarkably low in Israel in part because the government banned assault rifles for private citizens and issued handgun permits only after an extensive vetting process....

    "Now that model is at risk. Hamas’ kidnapping and slaughter of Israelis represents a catastrophic failure of state protection. It has tapped into deep national fears about being Jewish, vulnerable and exposed.

    "National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir — an incendiary Jewish supremacist once expelled from army service because of radicalism — has seized the moment. Prior to the Hamas attacks, he tried to weaken gun permit regulations and ease carry rights, but his arguments failed to gain traction. Now, however, he and his allies have managed to fast-track legislation that has generated an unprecedented spike in armed Jewish civilians....

    "Israeli data show that shockingly few terror attacks are stopped by civilians with guns, and yet the government insists otherwise. Armed civilians, said Netanyahu, 'save lives.' He initially shrugged off an incident in which a 'hero' armed civilian, who had indeed stopped a deadly terrorist attack, was then himself shot to death in the chaos. 'We might have to pay prices,' Netanyahu said, 'but that's life.'....

    "The proliferation of guns in Israel that began as a response to an external threat has become an enforcer of expansive internal agendas. 'I don’t really think Ben-Gvir wants Israelis to feel safe,' a Palestinian Israeli lawyer explained. 'He wants settlers and crazies to intimidate others.' "
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-since-hamas-attack-israelis-100053700.html

    Americans pay a very bloody price for easy access to guns every single day with no clear benefit. Israelis should keep that in mind.
     
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    in addition to a necro-job, that's complete BS. BTW that people who think like you want to ban guns is a solid example of the benefit those of us who reject your collectivist thinking get from owning guns
     

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