I don't get Israel's plan so far...

Israel wants to the entire population of Gaza to be sent to refugee camps in the Sinai. There they won't be allowed to return. Effectively committing genocide through extermination and displacement while justifying it because "Terrorism". This is straight up annexation of territory and genocide.

 

If a criminal grabs your family member and puts a gun to their head taking them hostage you would hope the police would tried to do a surgical strike or negotitate for their release correct? Instead Israel (The police) is strictly just gunning down the hostage (Your family member) in order to kill the criminal (Hamas). Are the police justified in killing the family member? From your point of view Israel is justified in killing all hostages because the TV box said Human shield killing isn't their fault.

 

Ah so the Palestinians need to be genocided to allow diversity? Not enough gay people in X country... time to bomb it! What an astounding justification for genocide.

 

spoken like someone who has no idea what modern warfare can do. 2+ bombs for 1 dead civilian is insanely good. Add that the number is BS anyway and the dead also include Hamas’ losses and you should be thanking israel on bended knee for showing such restraint. If Israel wanted 100k+ dead civilians you’d have 100k+ dead civilians.

the reason israel still isn’t happy with the number is because they aren’t inhuman pieces of crap.

And lol you think civilians have to “get moved”. Hahahaha. Is that what millions of people walking thousands of miles are doing to illegally immigrate here are doing? They “got moved”?

A million people have no legs! Whoda thunk it???

 

Oh you don’t support Hamas, you just support them being destroyed in a manner that ensures the maximum number of Israeli soldier casualties in doing it.

Absolutely zero understanding of modern warfare.

 

If they killed 100k+ people they know they'd be eliminated. They want to genocide the Palestinians through extermination and displacement. The displacement involves them being allowed into Sinai and then being shipped into Europe. The goal of Israel is the complete annexation of the Gaza strip and removing 2.1million people from there. If the war has a body count ranging at that point there would be a three way war on Israel's borders. USA and Israel can't justify a war to the American people anymore nor can the European governments sway their own.

I've seen enough Telegram posts cheering on seeing dead Palestinian children, making Tiktok videos of running their faucets while flicking their lights due to the resource lockdowns in Gaza, and corpses being dragged at the back of vehicles as if it were 1950s lynching a Black. Lets not even go into what their faith talks about the goyim or gentiles. Their actions are plenty that they are indeed the worst monsters. The same crimes they lay down on the Germans are the very same acts they commit against others.

Difference being that the Palestinians aren't moving. So rather than inflicting torture upon them they're just going to annex the land and displace them. They'll be part of the migrant caravans roaming the west. Thank you Israeli NGOs and Israeli Goverment for shipping Muslims into the west.

 

Why’s that when all they’d need to do is string the rest of the Palestinians on top of all the Israeli buildings and make them invulnerable to attack by anyone. Because that’s apparently what makes someone invincible: Palestinian meat shields.

So remind me again how Israel would be destroyed.

1st offense: unproven claims
2nd offense: telling me tik tok and telegram posts are proof of Jewish evil even worse than actual atrocities committed by Hamas.

Wow dude. You really are tough to convince huh. Tells me all I need to know that you just really hate Jews and will work with the weakest of BS to justify it.

So first you say Israel wants to genocide them, and now you say they want to displace them. Which is it? Can you confer with yourself about this and get back to me when you figure it out?

 

I'm afraid so. A one-state solution is impossible. Israel is a liberal democracy, the only one in the Middle East.

 

Israeli forces already string Palestinian children to their vehicles as meat shields. So it wouldn't phase me if they did the same to their rooftops. Though your point is that if Israel isn't allowed to indiscriminately allowed to bomb the civilians they can't get to the Hamas terrorists who... dwell in the tunnels below. So why are they strictly leveling buildings if Hamas is in tunnel networks? Oh right because they want to genocide the people there.

Which part isn't proven? Am I suppose to throw in sources for every comment I make? Where are your sources? I doubt your opinion is your own. So please source every word you post.

Yeah, they are evil people. They enjoy seeing people that aren't them killed. They consider everyone not them to be beasts. They even sing songs about Palestinian children being burned alive and they organ harvest the people they murder. The entire state of Israel is ISIS that is Jewish.

Oh, no... are you going to call me... an Anti-semite? Oh god please no! I want to keep my job and bank accounts. lol

Displacement is genocide. Look up the definition.

 

I lay it at the feet of both of them. Hamas for using them as shields, and Israel for pulling the trigger. No regard for innocent life on either side. I understand some civilians always die in war, but 8,000, and the level of bombing that is being done over such a small area so densely packed with civilians, is absurd.

 

Right, right, I don't have a clue. Just 20 years as an infantryman with 4 tours in Iraq, including two tours in Mosul and a tour in Baghdad. I've called in 9-lines with fixed wing and rotory wing aircraft, and I am very familiar with what they are capable of. I also know that with the level of accuracy we can achieve, 8,000 dead is abysmal, and stricter measures need to be taken to preserve civilian life.

 

Right because if you’re going to bomb tunnels underneath buildings you don’t bomb the buildings. you magic wand the bombs into the tunnels directly which would ironically collapse the buildings anyway even if you were to do that amiright?

Newsflash: The tunnel entrances come up underneath the buildings buddy, and the buildings themselves are used for military purposes. That’s why you bomb the buildings buddy. This is really simple. Like elementary.

yeah. You want to argue Jews are worse than terrorists you back that crap up. Again, real simple buddy. I don’t have to source the sun coming up in the morning but you tell me the sun isn’t going to come up you better source that crap.

aka I don’t have to source terrorists are pieces of crap. I understand basic things are tough for you but I hope you can figure this out.

More diatribe of you hating Jews. As if I needed more proof? I’d tell you to go get a “Hamas rules” shirt but you already have a bunch

 

So you think that if a terrorist straps a baby to his back then whether a bomb kills the terrorist and spares the baby somehow is all a matter of…accuracy?

yeeeeaaaaahhhh….and that’s why an infantryman who never rose past that shouldn’t be talking like he knows things about how bombs work. Hahahaha! Honestly, for your sake and the sake of the reputation of our armed forces, I’m gonna assume you’re just lying about the “military experience” thing

 

Never rose past what? Nothing in anything you said makes any kind of sense. You're thrashing around like an angry buffoon.

 

Those who planned it are sitting in Tehran, Qatar, and maybe even Russia. How will Mossad target and kill the leadership of Iran, exactly? Any advice?

 

Oh, so you think terror attacks in Tel Aviv are just a thought experiment. Please tell that to the families of the victims, they'll be so happy to know that their loved ones are not really dead, just faking it.

Tel Aviv does not have the infrastructure the terrorists enjoy in Gaza, nor do they have the support of the local population. Of course going after terrorists in Tel Aviv is different than going after them on their home turf in Gaza.

 

You were an infantryman. Of course you wouldn’t get what I’m saying. Hence why you never rose past it.

if you still don’t get it, let me know. I can break my words down to as basic as you need Mr. infantryman

 

You don't "rise past being an infantryman". Generals are infantry, Sergeant Majors are infantry. I think you are showing just how little you know about military matters.

 

Europe won't take them. Egypt won't let them into the Sinai. Jordan says they have enough.

I don't think so. It's not a realistic ambition.

Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt? No.

 

@LiveUninhibited @Josh77 @modernpaladin and others who worry so much about innocent Palestinian lives - here are the good news. You can actually do something to help. Convince Hamas terrorists to wear uniforms during battle. This way, Israeli soldiers will know who is a Hamas member and who is an innocent civilian, and will target only the terrorists. Problem solved.

 

Yeah. That’s what you are. A general. Clearly

edit: let me also add: no general in history has ever tried to win an argument by declaring himself an infantryman rather than a general.

aka, you ain’t no general. Not anything close. Hence why you didn’t pull rank and just said infantryman.

guess you don’t know much about your own army

 

They've invented bunker busters. That isn't the point though. This is just Jews invoking Amalek to justify their killing every man, woman, and child. 3000 children were killed already. I'm still waiting for the bullshit 40beheaded babies or the new "oven baby" stories to come with a shred of evidence.

The entire state was created by three terrorist groups that indiscriminately killed, displaced, and raped civilians as if it were the Medieval era. Your claims is that since Hamas is located underneath all of the land must be swept away and that means indiscriminate killing of civilians.

Why do you support Israel? They fund terror groups all around them and even had ISIS apologize to them. Their founding organizations bombed hotels, killed British officials, send mail bombs to President Truman, and massacred entire towns. Israel is a terror state that attacks US warships in the attempt to make us declare war with Egypt. Israelis dance when the WTC buildings came crashing down knowing beforehand that it was going to happen. Sounds a lot like terrorists.

I don't care about Hamas. I just know Israel is by far a controller of US politics with how many dual citizenship officials, bankers, media moguls, etc are all pulling the strings of the USA. Whether it's big Pharma or the war in Iraq you can lead it straight back to a Jew. They're not good people. Even polls taken shows 85% of Jews don't want to show any mercy to Palestinians. They're barbarians. Their religion is barbaric. The very nature of their existence is laid out to them being Masters & Chosen above all others. If you're not of them you're either an enemy or a slave. So I do have a problem with people who are no different from ISIS.

 

I didn't say I was. The highest position I held was as a platoon sergeant, leading a platoon of around 40 other soldiers along with the Platoon Leader who was an officer. I was pointing out that Infantrymen consist of everything from the lowliest privates to the most senior generals.

 

The bunkers are underneath the buildings buddy. That was my point. You’re still in search of one that isn’t BS it seems.

More unproven BS. What else is new.

And nope, nowhere did I say to bomb buildings with no Hamas in them and only civilians. You have proof that’s what Israel is doing? Boy would that be refreshing from someone who vomits revisionist history like he just had a dose of ipecac.

do you make it up as you go along or do you lack the creative thought and just copy/paste whatever the Hamas editorial section tells you?

Ahhh there’s the German in you speaking! I knew it couldn’t all be desert sand. All Heil Mein Kampf right? Want to tell the rest of the class what you think the final solution to this Jewish problem we have is?

 

The Tactics Behind Israel Offensive

'Israel is maximizing its firepower advantage over Hamas, minimizing its own casualties, while avoiding drawing other adversaries into the war.'

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'The smaller footprint means ground troops can more effectively be provided with close air support — crucial cover for entering parts of northern Gaza where Hamas has spent years preparing' traps.

“When our soldiers are manoeuvring we are doing this with massive artillery, with 50 aeroplanes overhead destroying any' military target 'that moves.”