Israel Targets Convoy of Ambulances Leaving Hospital

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  1. Irie

    Irie Active Member

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    And you can't prove it wasn't. How exactly do you figure your position carries more weight?
     
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    I can't prove a negative. It's up to you to prove Hamas was there when parroting what the butchers say, and you're failing miserably.
     
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  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You put words in my mouth. Just admit it.
     
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    Interesting. I'd never heard that; and it certainly was never taught, in my school. You wouldn't happen to have a link, would you?
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    You really struggle with your reading-- just admit it.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I can only show you the water, dude. I can't make you drink...lol...

    "at the University of Warwick. who has published a study of the diaries kept by United States and Australian soldiers, they sometimes massacred prisoners of war.[150] Dower states that in "many instances ... Japanese who did become prisoners were killed on the spot or en route to prison compounds".[128] According to Aldrich it was common practice for U.S. troops not to take prisoners.[151] This analysis is supported by British historian Niall Ferguson,[152] who also says that, in 1943, "a secret [U.S.] intelligence report noted that only the promise of ice cream and three days leave would ... induce American troops not to kill surrendering Japanese".[152]"
     
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    The ambos were transporting munitions.
     
  8. Irie

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    And clearly you can't prove the positive either. This isn't rocket science people...it's a "he said he said"... you, however, can choose to believe whatever you want

    Oh, and by the by; I have no duty to you or anyone else to prove anything of hamas.
     
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    Thank you for, finally, supplying that water. Before this, you had only been standing with a divining rod, on solid ground, and saying "there's water, somewhere beneath us." But now, the question becomes your willingness to drink the water of truth:

    Interesting-- though not really surprising-- that this suggests the practice of killing POWs, only occurred with JAPANESE prisoners; not with EUROPEAN ones. This is a GREAT EXAMPLE OF RACIAL PREJUDICE.
     
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scandal-of-pows-sent-to-deaths-on-minefields-1620692.html

    The kicker is in the end, where France as the culprit thinks just 2,500 were killed by being forced to do this.
    The red cross thinks 20,000 may have been killed. No reason to not trust the red cross on this.

    Denmark also did this.
    https://issuu.com/cisr-journal/docs/221-final/s/101639
    It contains a picture of POWs being made to march next to each other over a field to prove they cleared it all.
     
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    You keep repeating a claim that you're not proving.
     
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    I don't have to prove **** all.
     
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    And so? You lot claim that Hamas was there, but can't prove it. That's YOUR problem.
    So you either prove it or lose it.
     
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    lol
    You can't prove **** all.

    So all we got is that the Jewish state just slaughtered a convoy of ambulances.
     
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    I would file this under "Why is Israel so mad at Allah? Don't they want go to heaven and get 72 free gold fillings?"
     
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    It would be wrong, then, to call this an Allied practice, or operation: it was specifically France, and began in 1947. I haven't read the link about Denmark, yet; but I think it is very interesting to note that Denmark is the only other country in the world which shares Israel's heterodox legal interpretation of the Law Of Armed Conflict/International Humanitarian Law principle, of PROPORTIONALITY, which dictates that armies weigh the military advantage of any target, against the expected "collateral" civilian losses. In this outlier view, any structure which contains an enemy "facility"-- which means any enemy asset, whatsoever-- is considered in its entirety, to be an enemy target. Therefore, in this view, if Israel flattened an entire residential apartment complex, because of an Hamas installation, in the basement, they would not need consider if that installation was of significant enough military importance, to warrant that much civilian death and property damage because, if the whole building is part of the enemy "target," then there would be, legally speaking, no collateral damage, at all.

     
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    war is hell. contemporaries of my late father included a couple officers in Patton's army. They both noted that guards at the Concentration camps liberated by American armored divisions were shot. No one really lost any sleep over that given the conditions of the prisoners found in the camp. One man recounted that a few American soldiers handed weapons to some of the more physically fit prisoners and let them shoot Nazi guards. The bombing of German cities like Dresden were clearly designed to terrorize German citizens
     
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    The Jewish state with it's fanatically devoted political parties that "some group" voted in got this as a religion:
    When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it-- men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

    It's about how the Jews commit a genocide to thieve the land of civilians. You can see that sort of crap going in the WB with the colonies they made at the barrel of the guns. It's also why a convoy of ambulances gets blown up. Hamas is just a reaction to what is done to the Palestinians for so many decades on end.
     
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    This is false. In the reality that is not consumed with hatred, and ruled by the idea of retribution, there are longer term consequences, because of the impression that an army's acts, leaves upon others. Your mind is clearly stuck in another age, in which the might of a country's military was all that mattered. We now live in a world on which strength depends upon cooperation with other nations, and so is measured by the effectiveness of one's network of allies.

    Israel had been on a path to a development of this network, among its Arab neighbors. By going full commando, here, Israel will only destroy that possibility, and keep itself isolated: precisely as Hamas had hoped. For, had Israel been able to develop those diplomatic ties with Arab & Muslim nations-- that would have isolated Iran.
     
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    Why don't you explain why crimes like the Holocaust have repeatedly afflicted the Jews? Possibly it has something to do with the delusion of being the "chosen" people with the god given right to murder, maim, incinerate, and decapitate non-Jews in pursuit of stealing their land.
     
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    maybe it is due to the fact that Jews are hard working successful people who tend to prosper even in environments where bigots and losers oppress them. Maybe it is because a few million Jews beat the living snot out of many times more Muslims in several different conflicts. Maybe it is because the learned professions in the USA are full of Jews because they value learning and education far more than the bigots who attack them.
     
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    Maybe among older generations who could accept such barbarism, but among younger generations, they are much much more sympathetic with the plight of Palestinians. Not Hamas, but civilians.
     
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    There was an interview this morning with a Lr Coll from the IDF and he explained the ambulance/taxi connection. This isn't the first time we've seen it either. They use them to move weapons and fighters around the battle area.
     
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    well they come off as supporting Hamas and between Israel and Hamas there is no real choice. Most of the woke younger types wouldn't last a week in an environment controlled by Islamist terrorists.
     
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    I don't see how you can choose either one. Both need to go. We need a completely new regime in Israel and Palestine. Bibi is done, as is Hamas. They had their chance.
     

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