Whoops! The Economy is GREAT and getting better!

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  1. sec

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    you asked the wrong guy. Unlike when there was a Republican in office, the Democrat house had the media support to spin their BS and submarine a POTUS

    The GOP does not have the media as they always push Democrat points. DC is what it always has been, and money for the big guy is just status quo; so no to impeachment. They should simply man up and state; this is how DC rolls, we all enrich ourselves
     
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    nope

    due to exec orders which attacked fossil fuel in jan 2021
     
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    The two issues have no relationship to one another.
    See: 2019
     
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    So, you want to go back to separating children from their parents, without keeping any records, so there is no hope of ever reuniting them?

    Encounters are up but:

    New Data: Immigrant Population Is 2 Million Below 2017 Census Projections
    https://www.cato.org/blog/new-censu...t-population-2-million-below-2017-projections

    Actual immigration has been steady, and in currently there are more Asians than Mexicans entering the U.S.
     
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    feel free to go back and review how the market reacted to the exec orders, how quickly fuel prices shot up and subsequently, the cost of everything

    I appreciate your Democrat pom pom waving. IT's nice to see a loyal Democrat voter
     
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    The point is, the fact is it takes a steady hand and long term vision; "like President Biden's" to run this country.l Supporting our President is how I was raised, I supported tRaitor tRump after he was elected, in the face of a whole lot of resistance and criticism.
     
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    You are correct. You are NOT a lawyer and yet here you are pontificating on laws that Biden is allegedly not enforcing.

    And then you wonder why we tell you that you don't know what you are talking about.
     
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    What does legal immigration have to do with illegal immigration flooding our Southern border? You're talking apples and oranges
     
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    Not illegal immigration, encounters. Encounters are up. No one in the U.S. can control how many migrants come North. -duh
     
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    FYI, from 2 yrs ago, when Abbott and DeSantis were busing immigrants into other areas, I avowed more would come. Exactly what has happened.
     
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    . . . the data is about BOTH apples AND oranges. It's in the ****ing link.
     
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    The stock market and impeaching the President are not connected in any way.
    The impeachment inquiry authorization:
    The Republican-controlled chamber voted 221-212 along party lines to approve the probe, which is examining whether Biden improperly benefited from his 53-year-old son Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings, hours after the younger Biden refused a call to testify behind closed doors.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...rmalize-biden-impeachment-inquiry-2023-12-13/

    Once the inquiry is concluded, the evidence found same will determine what specific statutes were violated, if any.
    Never mind the fact articles of impeachment need not specify any statutes broken or violated.
     
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    Its about immigration in this country.. Legal immigration has slowed and we should work to clean and expedite legal immigration. Allowing floods of illegal immigrants into the nation does more harm than good to our society. Flooding our market with 10+ million illegal immigrants in 3 years does massive harm to our economy, as it depresses wages. As you are seeing in many sanctuary cities, the financial impact on metro areas are becoming unsustainable.

    Again.. Legal immigration = Apples and Illegal Immigration = Oranges. We should be moving to increase access to legal immigration.
     
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    I know exactly exactly what I’m taking about. A better economy is not an accepted reason for getting into the country. Only proven polital persecution is a reason because that’s why the Biden administration is giving them court dates.

    Now you prove me wrong.
     
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    You aright righty, the economy had no where to go but tup.

    You know why? Trump f$$$ up US economy. Lost more jobs under his presidency in US history , $9 trillion wealth lost just in 2020 . yea by the time Trump was kicked out of office , the US economy was f$$$$ up. It took Biden 3 years to fix.,

    Again, you are right, the economy couldn't go any where but go up .
     
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    :lol:
    Forgot about COVID already, did you?
    :lol:
     
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    I asked you to point out the specific statute that you are accusing Biden of not enforcing. You still have not done that.
     
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    Go back to the start of the conversation.

    It was claimed that Biden was not enforcing immigration laws and that was reason enough for an impeachment.

    I asked the claimant to name the specific statute that he said Biden was not enforcing. So far....crickets
     
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    I know.
    That does not affect, much less negate, anything -I- said.
     
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    It is about BOTH legal AND illegal immigration. But we agree that we should be moving to increase legal immigration. All the more reason to fight Trump and his followers.

    Also, no, illegal immigration doesn't do net harm to our economy. Most of the cost is in enforcement. And, long term, they don't depress wages.
     
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    lol I’m sure you meant to say covid right? Trump had it moving along with lowest employment, higher wages on and on. Virus hit the world and your right we should’ve let them all die instead of help businesses hang on to jobs right? I know you guys can’t compare Biden’s first 3 to trumps, and I hate trump, but come on this isn’t comedy stupid hour. Have we finally reached the pre pandemic total labor participation numbers yet? GDP sure as crap should be up since everything you’re buying is 20% more than pre pandemic, if you understand basic economics anyway..
     
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    yes and no

    if interest rates do go down as expected, prior to that you will see a lot of folks buy into long-term jumbo CD's paying 5.6% or better
    Banks will need to determine if they want to offer those rates for longer than 6 months because even if the fed cuts rates, banks cannot cut that fast.
    Yes, stocks are rising and I'm glad that I continued to DCA during this Democrat debacle.
    But, even with rate cuts, if we get Democrat control again, then the stock market will be a higher risk.

    The take-away. Rates go down to try and kick start the economy. Prices of goods/services will not come down so we have the new normal of much higher prices for everything. Folks who only use banks/CD's will be back to earning 2% at best and folks with stocks will need to evaluate if they want to weather the storm of Democrat policies should that come to be.

    It's not going to be fun
     
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