Pentagon Launches Operation ‘Guardian of Prosperity’ to Protect Red Sea from Houthi Attacks

Just because you run your fingers to type something doesn't mean what comes out is true. Maybe you can cite someone in any meaningful position and then we can talk.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/30/the-u-s-navy-isnt-ready-to-take-on-iran/
The U.S. Navy Isn’t Ready to Take On Iran
That’s why, for now, tough talk may remain just that.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iran-could-sink-us-aircraft-carrier-what-happens-after-76511
Iran Could Sink a U.S. Aircraft Carrier (But What Happens After)?
Doom.
By VADM John Bird (USN, Ret.), former commander of U.S. 7th Fleet.

 

lol
People associated with the PNAC
Project directors
[as listed on the PNAC website:]

• William Kristol, Co-founder and Chairman[6]
• Robert Kagan, Co-founder[6]
• Bruce P. Jackson[6]

• Mark Gerson[6]
• Randy Scheunemann[6]

Project staff[edit]

• Other director(s):
  • Ellen Bork, Deputy Director[6]
  • Timothy Lehmann, Assistant Director[6]
• Other associates:
  • Senior fellows:
    • Giselle (formerly Thomas) Donnelly, Senior Fellow[6]
    • Reuel Marc Gerecht, Senior Fellow[6]
    • Gary Schmitt, Senior Fellow[6][65]

• Research associates:
  • Michael Goldfarb, Research Associate[6]
• Comptroller:
  • Dov Zakheim,[6] Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) (2001-2004)

Former directors and staff

• John R. Bolton, Director, former Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs (2001-2005) and United States Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-2006), former National Security Advisor of the United States (2018-2019), former senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
• Daniel McKivergan, Deputy Director[66]
• Christopher Maletz, former Assistant Director
• Richard N. Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs under the Reagan administration, an AEI associate, and member (and former chairman) of the Defense Policy Board

Signatories to Statement of Principles

• Elliott Abrams,[5] National Security Advisor (2005-2009)
• Gary Bauer[5]
• William J. Bennett[5]
• John Ellis "Jeb" Bush,[5] Governor of Florida (1999-2007)
• Dick Cheney,[5] Vice President of the United States (2001-2009)
• Eliot A. Cohen,[5] Counselor of State Department (2007-2009)
• Midge Decter[5]
• Paula Dobriansky,[5] Under Secretary of State for Democracy and Global Affairs (2001-2009)
• Steve Forbes[5]
• Aaron Friedberg[5]
• Francis Fukuyama[5]
• Frank Gaffney[5]
• Fred C. Ikle[5]
• Donald Kagan[5]
• Zalmay Khalilzad,[5] Ambassador to Afghanistan (2003-2005), Ambassador to Iraq (2005-2007), Ambassador to United Nations (2007-2009)
• I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby,[5] Chief of Staff to Vice President (2001-2005)
• Norman Podhoretz[5]
• J. Danforth Quayle[5]
• Peter W. Rodman[5]
• Stephen P. Rosen[5]
• Henry S. Rowen[5]
• Donald Rumsfeld,[5] Secretary of Defense (2001-2006)
• Vin Weber[5]
• George Weigel[5]
• Paul Wolfowitz,[5] Deputy Secretary of Defense (2001-2005)

 

so?

 

you ignore the obvious

 

if those names are "obscure" for you, they aren't to me.

 

The reports on Houthi attacks come with some delay and seldom correctly explain the true nature of the vessel hit. Neutral shipping in the Red Sea (i.e. those with no connections to Israel or the US) can identify themselves as many do these days and not be attacked.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tanker-reported-hit-by-missile-in-red-sea/
LIVE UPDATEFROM THE LIVEBLOG OF TUESDAY, JANUARY 16, 2024
Tanker reported hit by missile in Red Sea

 

I said nothing about those people being obscure

 

Lol keep telling yourself its only tough talk, and **** with the boats.

Go on, if they're not a threat to you at all kick them out of "your" waters then.

 

Many admirable names, in fact.

 

Two things:

1. This is a rogues gallery of folks who have been wrong about almost every foreign policy decision they've supported.

2.
Whut?

 

Yes, the Iranian navy is very impressive, might give the Belgians a real run for their money. Meanwhile here is the USS Eisenhower;

uss eisenhower aircraft carrier - Search Images (bing.com)

Aka the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!

 

I had referred to PNAC and the "offensive" mission charted for US foreign policy. You had responded saying:

 

Those which have entered Iranian waters have been apprehended. And when they pass through the Straits of Hormuz, they are properly warned to not veer off in directions they shouldn't, including what @Reasonablerob calls BATTLESTAR GALACTICA but in reality a sitting duck.

Just a few weeks ago:

 

I only wish actual US military planners will prove as utterly clueless as you guys. Operating in the Persian Gulf, behind Iran's "boats" are thousands of Iranian missiles, drones, hundreds of aircraft, dozens of submarines, and much more.

 

And this is how it looked one another "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA", the USS Abraham Lincoln, entered the Persian Gulf when a favorite of the "big mouth" contingent here, Trump, was president.

US Navy confirms the 18 fast-attack craft seen in satellite footage swarming the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in the Strait of Hormuz earlier this month WERE Iranian

 

90,000 tons of sitting duck?

Your point being?

Yeah, that's what they did to us when we were in the Gulf, it wasn't impressive, like gnats to a bear.

 

I have made my point already.

 

irrelevant

 

My bet is that a significant number of the PNAC goons are also members of AIPAC

 

AIPAC, along with Christians United for Israel, work hand-in-hand with not just these folks but a larger array of figures whose plans for the US involved and involves destroying the countries in the region. They used to pretend they were an ideological crusade to spread "democracy" in the region but have since given up that pretense.

 

If its just a sitting duck, go ahead and **** with the boats already.

 

Pay attention and learn to understand what I have written.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iran-could-sink-us-aircraft-carrier-what-happens-after-76511
Iran Could Sink a U.S. Aircraft Carrier (But What Happens After)?
Doom.
By VADM John Bird (USN, Ret.), former commander of U.S. 7th Fleet.

 

Revealing how the PNAC list has become the Never Trumpers list.

 

Those folks used to be extremely popular and well supported by groups such as Christians United for Israel and, of course, AIPAC. But the neocons ended up being a liability when their obvious lies became obvious even to many of their followers and, more importantly, the "forever wars" and "nation-building" had begun taking its toll on their base. In the meantime, a new figure arrived who appealed to many of the sentiments they had carefully fed into the minds of their brainwashed followers on the issues they cared about most, packaged without any of the "intellectual" nonsense of the neocons. So they tried shifting their tactics to the guy who could deliver for them, namely Trump, although that obviously didn't sit well with those losing out and being sidelined by someone who had (and fed on) an innate dislike of all so-called intellectuals. Even those who had joined forces with the right wingers in American politics. The neocons, in the meantime are split: they are more comfortable on some levels with Biden than Trump, but also know the Democratic base has enough voices who aren't driven by loyalty to their sacred cow, Israel, while the same is only true of a smaller, less organized, faction among Republicans.

 

Precisely the opposite. They have resoundingly rejected Trump and Trump rejected them.