Dominion voting machines hacked with a pen in front of a judge????

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  1. Steve N

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    I poked around a little and tried to find more sources for this story but couldn't. Has anyone heard about this case and/or the voting machines being hacked in a court room?

     
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    Jan. 21, 2024
    Professor Halderman wrote about his findings in a blog post on Wednesday.
    Back in September 2020, the Court granted the Curling Plaintiffs access to one of Georgia’s touchscreen ballot marking devices (BMDs) so that they could assess its security. Drew and I extensively tested the machine, and we discovered vulnerabilities in nearly every part of the system that is exposed to potential attackers. The most critical problem we found is an arbitrary-code-execution vulnerability that can be exploited to spread malware from a county’s central election management system (EMS) to every BMD in the jurisdiction. This makes it possible to attack the BMDs at scale, over a wide area, without needing physical access to any of them.
    Our report explains how attackers could exploit the flaws we found to change votes or potentially even affect election outcomes in Georgia, including how they could defeat the technical and procedural protections the state has in place. While we are not aware of any evidence that the vulnerabilities have been exploited to change votes in past elections, without more precautions and mitigations, there is a serious risk that they will be exploited in the future.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23846675-halderman-report
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/gig-is-up-exclusive-local-reporter-describes-election/

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  3. Steve N

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    I'm surprised at how little interest this thread has garnered considering what a big deal this is...or could be.
     
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    I'm surprised too, specially why Fox News and other pro Trump media are so quiet. Maybe, maybe it is no news at all, or maybe there is no proof it could change the election results?
     
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    Great... please show us the DOJ investigation one way or another... the problem so far is people like Powell made claims but could never get access to the machines... in fact the machine where never even addressed because of copyright infringement issues....

    and with all these election fraud issues..... who had the evidence and proof locked up away from the people looking to prove fraud, the accused had it secured away and untouchable....
     
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    What!!? You mean this humongous revelation has just come out now?

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    Perhaps because they were sued from ****** to eternity for making up ****?
     
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    And that's the thing, the guy who posted that Tweet had to know Dominion would crush him if his story was false - plus he cites a well known computer geek in that Tweet. Like I said, I can't find another story about this, but it is the weekend, maybe something will pop up tomorrow.
     
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    I don't think Dominion will care much about this guy.

    Yep, it could be the greatest revelation since ants pants; but more than likely it's so dumb (based on previous dismissed nonsense) that nobody is even going to bother.

    For example, I wonder if Dominion machines have another record for verification apart from the pen-alterable readout on the outside?

    But I'm not going to wonder anymore, because I somehow think that all of the experts that have trawled this stuff for years might know a bit more about it than my armchair research bouncing off Twitter headlines. But you knock yourself out!
     
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    Funny how the judge hasn't dismissed this lawsuit.
     
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    Well at least we'll finally find out how Trump managed to win Florida and N.C.
     
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    The source of that story is GatewayPundit one of the worst failed fact check ultra right wing hack sites on the internet. and it was last june, so it's old, tired, fake news. Just about everything they post is a lie, they make the National Enquirer look reputable.

    You'll have to do better than that.
     
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    Ahhh, thank you.
     
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    The geek hacked a voting machine with a pen last June and we're just hearing about it now?

    These are the same voting machines Elizabeth Warren complained about, right?
     
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    It's not that simple. The source of that misleading story is the Gatewaypundit, which is the worst right wing hack site on the internet, the absolute worst, the vast majority of their stories fail fact checks. Well, i'd say the National Tattler is just below it. They make the National Enquirer look like a reputable rag.

    The PHD guy's report (a guy named Halderman) that the GatewayPundit is misleading you on was debunked by an analysis put out by the MITRE foundation

    https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2023-06/MITRE Report.pdf

    Limited Scalability. Since the proposed Safe Mode Attack targets one BMD at a time, the number of potentially affected votes in a Georgia election would be statistically insignificant to change the outcome of an election and avoid a recount.

    [...]

    MITRE NESL concluded that all attack scenarios described by the researcher require highly unusual opportunity, insider knowledge, technical skill, and extensive access and that it would be operationally infeasible for the attacks described on the Georgia election system to be “effectuated by malicious actors with very limited time and access to the machines” to commit “large-scale fraud” with “only moderate technical skills” in the context of changing the outcome
    of an election.

    This goes back to my original analysis:

    The logistical nightmare required for one party to tamper with the national internal voting apparatus, by it's extremely decentralized design, requiring hiring of operatives and installed in place in at least a dozen key states, months in advance, keeping everyone under the radar and from leaking, it is well nigh impossible task, which precludes any possibility of a party rigging the election internally.

    To accomplish it, it would require months of advance planning, the recruitment of both republicans and democrats (because each election district has both working there, many volunteering ) to cooperate in a vast conspiracy to rig the election for a DEMOCRAT. And, to do that, we would expect that they would be able to do it clandestinely, that the observers,both right and left, would be part of the conspiracy, and no one would leak, all with the threat of being caught and being sent to prison.

    And what is their gain? Not money. Why would anyone participate in an impossible scheme where they would surely get caught? That the beauty of the American system, it's so big, each state with different systems, no one knows for sure ahead of time which of the few states will wind up being the swing states ( out of a dozen or more potential swing states, which is why they will need operatives in all of them, they don't know which ones in advance will be the actual swing states), it is absurd.

    On top of this, the down ballot candidates, republicans gained in the house. If this were a massive conspiracy by the left, they wouldn't have chanced such a close win on the house, they would have made the margin wider, same goes for the senate. This, right there, disproves any massive fraud scheme.

    The more we scrutinize what would have to occur in order for a massive rigging to occur, the more absurd the idea becomes.

     
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    See #15. All of this was based on a report put out in 2022, and it went no where because the so-called 'research' was debunked.
     
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    And this is how the the Bull Crap conspiracy theories grow ...

    Someone puts out a story with the usual, "I'm not sure about this story, but it sure sounds important ..." crap in hopes that two or three people
    down the food chain will post, "Did you see this! Why isn't everyone outraged about this!" and so on and so on ...

    Gods, humans are hopeless.
     
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    ~ Political discussion websites are mostly leftist / Progressive populated — hence the lack of interest in facts. Same thing with network media ... :ignore:
     
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    Well, it it is true we will have new milliners!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox_News_Network
    I am sure Fox News will fight now to get back $787.5 million, and because there is a proof that Dominion's voting machines had been rigged to steal the 2020 United States presidential election, as proved on the Political Forum - millions of dollars will change hands.

    The guy who posted that Tweet has nothing to be afraid - Trump milked his supporters of of more than $200 millions, so for sure he will take this guy under his wings!
     
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    I sometimes am suspicious of things found on twitter.
     
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    I love the way that some Dems, after they successfully steal an election, all line up to claim that only the perfect level of fraud occurred, and no more.
    • What's the perfect level of fraud? One vote less than the margin of victory.
    • What is that figure in number of votes? We'll tell you right after we announce the margin of victory.
    Few fooled.

    [​IMG]https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › 2022 › jan › 05 › america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory
    More than 40% in US do not believe Biden legitimately won election - poll

    'More than 40% of Americans do not believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 presidential election.'

    And by the way, how is that GA case going?

    MSNBC Legal Analyst: A Horrible Look For Fani Willis, She Will Be Disqualified For Lying To The Court

    She tried to claim that Trump was engaged in a felony conspiracy, when now it looks like it's Fani and her Sex Buddy who were defrauding the GA tax payers.

    Fani's Credibility now blasted on.

    "Don't let the legalese fool you. This is epic. This is monumental. Fani Willis lied to the court. It’s game over for her. She will be disqualified, if they had a relationship prior to [the Trump case]. It’s a huge deal. I can't overstate it."'

    "The issue is that her credibility is shot," Polisi said. "If she lied to the court, she submitted something to the court that she knew was false and inaccurate, what else was she lying about? It's a horrible, horrible look for her. I think the case is dead in the water."

    Yup, it's all over, time for a cigarette.

    GA voters want Trump re-elected by margins. The cheaters in GA can probably steal an election within the margin of error, but I don't think they can steal much beyond that.

    It looks like GA is Trump Country.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/georgia/trump-vs-biden
     
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    So when does FOX get their money back and when does the world apologize to the my pillow guy?
     
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    It isn't a "story". This actually happened.
    You should be happy. Do you want either side to be able to cheat SO EASILY?
    https://www.ajc.com/politics/witnes...in-security-trial/WUVKCYNV3ZGOVNB6X6TDX2GEFQ/

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    Polls are irrelevant to facts.

    Sorry, there is no voter fraud nor does the evidence support the allegation.

    Those polls will change drastically once Trump is convicted, and that is likely.

    Fani is going nowhere, and Trump will be tried in GA successfully, but that trial won't begin until after the vote.

    The trials to look fore are the Jack Smith Wash DC trial and the NY Trial.
     
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    I haven't heard of it, but it is not terribly surprising. It wasn't in a court room but I recall back in the time an IT expert witness testifying that by his analysis Dominion's system was a piece of cake to hack.
     
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