LA Times editor implores ex-Californians to stop insulting the state on their way out

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“Los Angeles Times’ letters editor Paul Thornton implored Californians leaving the state to stop criticizing it on the way out.

"To the people leaving California: May the road rise to meet you as you seek better lives in new places. Now, can you please extend some goodwill to those of us who remain?" Thornton asked in a Saturday piece headlined, "Commentary: If you want to leave, fine. But don’t insult California on the way out."

He went on to describe how staggering numbers of Californians are fleeing to other states…

"If you must leave California for Texas, Arizona, New England or anywhere else, don’t be a person who trash-talks the home of 39 million people," he pleaded.“








https://www.foxnews.com/media/la-times-editor-implores-ex-californians-stop-insulting-state-way






Lol! Those leaving should openly mock and ridicule California for all the reasons that caused them to move. The very reasons that he defends. Our local drive time talk radio host led with the story and openly mocked the editorial and explained all the reasons there are to mock the state when we leave and even more so from within while we are here. The reasons to openly mock this state and its leaders to their faces are so very many.

 

The LA Times defends the smaller reasons people leaving mock the state while minimizing the impact of the bigger reasons. The locals who stay instate who live in or moved to distant exurbs to small towns are rural parts of the state are louder and more vocal critics of Californication from within.

 

I counter with encouragement for them to continue to do so louder and more often. There is so much wrong with California that ex Californians should explain why no one out there should move here. The state went woke now it has gone broke and deservedly so! Those of us in the opposition who remain are simply waiting them out while defying crap that interferes with our conservative lifestyle and values locally.

 

California is many things, not all positive, but it is an amazing place to live

 

That depends on where here that you live. Climate and beauty along the coast is no longer enough to keep people here compared to the crime, homelessness, high cost of living, housing costs, and income disparity there. Where I live we have more in common with Idaho and Nebraska than we do with the coastal urban areas of this state. In fact we prefer to become part of Idaho along with some Oregon counties to remaining in this hell hole of a state.

 

I find it so odd some folks think of California as a “hellhole”, yet willingly live here

 

When I arrived in So Cal in 1991 I didn't think it was so bad, probably because I had just come from Puerto Rico and before that I lived in New Jersey. But over the years things got stupid. Taxes and fees just seemed to keep rising. Twice when I lived there we were told to conserve water because of droughts, but then the water company told us they had to raise the rates because saving water meant less revenue for them. After each of those rate increases the rates didn't go back down to where they were before the droughts. Two ballot measures voted for by the citizens were blocked by one judge each time - talk about voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

Unlike NJ and PR, the people in CA don't want to know their neighbors. I lived in 2 homes when I was there, one for 15 years, and never got to know my neighbors at all.

Finally, my wife was born and raised in So Cal, and after moving out, first to El Paso, then Vegas and now Las Cruces, she said she would never go back and didn't realize how restrictive CA is until she got out.

 

The guy who wrote this story is a moron. Does he think he's boosting CA's image by writing a story about nearly a million people moving out because they think the state sucks? I'll bet dollars to donuts that he calls himself educated.

 

It would appear that he wants people to conceal the problems caused by our poor leadership. Its not like people don't already know why people are leaving CA.

 

When I was in CA the vehicle registration cost for my truck was $365.00. When I moved to El Paso it went down to something like $54. Texas bases their registration fees based on weight, which is logical since it's the weight of the vehicles that tear up the roads. California bases their registration fees on the value of the car. So a beat to hell Porsche that needs extensive body work and a new engine has an very costly registration cost because some bean counter said 'hey look, a Porsche' and raised the rate higher than a much heavier vehicle.

 

I think it’s a mistake to assume SoCal is an accurate representation of CA. Frankly I’d prefer us in NorCal split from them entirely

 

It probably is much better up there from what I've heard.

 

The sad part? Having to live in El Paso to save money on registration fees.

 

Here's a map of the states with the most freedom, CA isn't looking too good.

Now I'm to guess the left will say people are free to move to states where being free means you can be a hateful, bigoted racist. I mean, what else can they say?




https://www.freedominthe50states.org/

 

Do you really think that's why I moved there? Have you ever heard of a job transfer? Oh, and Texas has no state income tax and the sales tax is lower than California's.

Where does all of CA's revenue go? It ain't the roads.

 

Well, that metric depends on how one defines freedom, correct?

 

Easy tiger. Just pointing out that the downside of cheap auto registration in El Paso is having to live in El Paso.

 

I understand it's a beautiful place but it would probably be much better without retarded liberal policies making it very difficult for people to live there

 

I find it easy to live there, derogatory language or not.

I am a half hour from the ocean. I am 2.5 hours from the Sierra Nevada mountains. I have amazing weather in Sonoma County, rarely too hot, never too cold. I can drive a half hour and do all of the duck hunting I want. I can ride my bike through the Mayacamas.

All adds to a pleasant living environment.

 

CA has fallen and can’t get up

“Police have reported 1,335 incidents at the Oakland restaurant since 2019, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. Most of them were reportedly car break-ins targeting visitors coming from Oakland International Airport.”

In-N-Out to Close Only Oakland Store as Crime Ravages California

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...store-as-crime-ravages-california/ar-BB1h4xFL

 

I wish the Californians leaving would stay there. Even the conservative Californians are left of where we sit here and many other places they’re moving to. For example there is a town in Idaho that was overrun with Californians. Both mayors running for office were Californians and it was a matter of how far left each was although the both claimed to conservative.

One was an ex firefighter and wanted the same pensions for cops (130k) he was left with from California. This would raise taxes on the original Idaho citizens. The other (the incumbent) supposedly came to Idaho with just the shirt on his back in 2003 so all intents and purposes he is close to an Idahoan. However both claimed to be conservative.

The incumbent wound up losing likely because the whole town has been run over with ex Californians. They are having a clear change in Idaho politics and even Boise has been said to becoming California.

As for me, I wouldn’t welcome Californians in at all and wish a wall could be built to protect us from them. We had a bunch as did Idaho that came in and started buying property so aggressively that it made our property values unattainable for locals. They have had a bad effect and I truly hope that they all decide to move back.

You should see the studies of the pensions they take and how much of californias taxes are going to people outside of the state just to bring the cost up for us and others. It’s truly disturbing.

here’s a quote from the following article

https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=42ac5fc9-ef63-4e79-b0a3-67e67aaea02d

there is no way that us small town folk from rural areas will ever see these people as conservative. They are living off of government taxes to this day. That’s not conservatism.

 

Most who think that have left or want to do so. Some have chosen to move to exurban to rural outlying areas of the state far from its coastal population centers if family , job, or business requires being in California. In these far distant places city folk have a hard time enforcing all their crap so we can live in those places and still live the social and populist lives we want. Our areas are strongly pro Trump as much so as the Bay Area and LA are democrat. Perhaps you were unaware of a red section of California that is here.

 

El Paso wasn't the best place I've lived, my wife didn't like it and said the Mexicans were racist towards her. And get this, the Mexican food in So Cal buries the Mexican food in El Paso. CA, by far, has the best Mexican food I've ever had.

 

I am well aware of the geopolitical differences in California. I am just not sure why folks who purport to hate it so much willingly live here.

 

If California were a sovereign nation (2022), it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the world's fifth largest economy, behind Japan and ahead of India.