E. Jean Carroll is a rich woman.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jury Determines Trump Must Pay $83 Million In Damages For Defaming E. Jean Carroll

    After deliberating for less than three hours, the jury in the E. Jean Carroll civil trial against Donald Trump has determined that the former president must pay the writer $83.3 million in damages for defaming her in 2019 when she came forward accusing him of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s.

    Broken down, the jury determined Trump must pay $11 million in compensatory damages for a reputation repair program, $7.3 million in compensatory damages outside of the reputation program and $65 million in punitive damages.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...million-in-damages-for-defaming-e-jean-caroll

    It will no doubt be appealed. What case involving Trump isn't. But in the end his wallet will be lighter no matter what. I don't think fleecing the rubes is going to be enough to cover this.

    Nice to see some accountability for despicable behavior.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While the judge presiding over the case, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan, is known for upholding a no-nonsense courtroom, Trump and his lawyer put the judge’s patience to the test. Kaplan reprimanded Trump repeatedly for speaking out of turn, ordered Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba to “sit down” on several occasions, struck a section of Trump’s minutes-long testimony from the record, threw one of Trump’s campaign officials out of the courtroom after an alarm went off on the aide’s phone and, during closing arguments, told Habba she was “on the verge of spending some time in the lockup” after she tried to enter social media posts into evidence at the last minute, CNN reported.

    In the vernacular of The Following, Trump is butthurt.
     
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    Wow, lucky Trump is worth over $10B or this would really hurt. Worst case he can sell some more trading card NFTs.
     
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    The question is whether this will slow Trump from his assaults on his rape victim - the objective of the case.

    If he continues, it would be the foundation of ANOTHER civil suit against Trump.

    I just find it difficult to contemplate Trump deciding to ****.

    Plus, the very idea of America deciding this is the behavior they want in a president is seriously worrying. Who the heck ARE we? How do we accept this as moral behavior? Why aren't America's Christians standing up?
     
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    Especially to Russian's money launderers.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When does the winning start?

    And to think, this all comes about because he couldn't keep his stupid mouth shut.
     
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    Is the 25-year-old rape charge a new pension system for women of a certain age?

    'I think that allowing defamation suits for claims of innocence is a due process violation. But speaking of due process, nobody imagines that Donald Trump can get a fair trial in Manhattan, any more than the Scottsboro Boys could in Alabama.'

    It will get appealed, just like the last ridiculous verdict by the previous Trump Hating NY Jury.
     
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    Appeals have to have a basis. What's his basis for appeal?

    And, sorry. Rape is not legal. I don't know where you got the idea that rape is legal, but it is absolutely not.
     
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    'This "defamation" consisted of Trump rejecting the original stupid jury verdict. Apparently there's a new Trump-only rule that if a partisan jury convicts you of nonsense, you are required to proclaim your guilt, or the state will endlessly extort you.'

    "I suspect that an appellate court will take a skeptical view of the new action. Carroll became a public person by selling her memoir in which she related her claims against Trump. In those circumstances, a person has a right to defend themselves against the allegations, including questioning the motives behind them. We'll see what happens on appeal."

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    She started the slander, by slandering Trump.
     
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    No, he attacked Carroll in disgusting, demeaning and threatening ways.

    That's not defense, and he was warned over and over again.
     
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    IT'S NOT ENOUGH!
     
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    So, do you think she made more off the Trump verdict or the payoff by the DNC?
     
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    We'll wait for the appeals.
    He was false accused.
    He had and has every right to deny it and speak his mind.
    She couldn't prevail in a criminal trial so they rigged up a civil trial and got a couple of Trump hating juries, and you're all excited.

    I'll wait for the appellate courts.
     
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    Well, that was the entire point of this anyway, wasn't it? Politically driven abuse of the justice system for political partisan agendas?

    I'm getting to the point that I feel completely comfortable telling people who support tearing down our institutions of government and weaponizing departments and agencies for political reasons that they are absolute pieces of human excrement that deserve nothing more than to be accidentally run over by a very fast moving bus.

    Tearing down our country and doing irrevocable damage because CNN and MSNBC told them a million time Orange Man Bad.

    Lemnings.
     
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    Then why aren't these news articles explaining exactly what those ways were?
     
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    Trump lost his rape trial. That's not politically driven.

    He's not immune from prosecution.

    Have Republicans decide that rape is OK?
     
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    Good question.

    First, there is press coverage of this topic.

    Beyond that, we have national primaries, the genocide in Gaza, the Houthi attacks on shipping (as well as other Iran funded attacks over a wide region), reports on our surprisingly strong economy (at a time that the Right Wing claimed the US economy would collapse), serious winter storms, the Ukraine defense of their country from concerted attacks by Russia, House Republicans refusing to allow our southern border to be made stronger, the other 90 charges against Trump, Trump's waning brain function, etc.

    The Carroll v Trump case is all constant whining by Trump, as he tries to make out that he's a major league victim. There's NO news value in that.
     
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    That's the part you don't understand. He'd rather have to pay that $$$$ than swallow his pride and give you haters satisfaction. I'm guessing E Jean will be even richer than this 83 million because there's no doubt he'll talk more smack and end up in court AGAIN, and again, and again and at the end of the day none of it detracts from how much Biden sucks
     
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    Zero is plenty for the literally zero evidence she produced which is exactly what she will get... zero lol
     
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    She won't get a dime. She literally produced zero evidence.
     
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    My assumption is the purpose of the appeal is to get a reduction in the amount of damages. Remember, the matter of his guilt or innocence was not at issue in this case. It had already been established. The jury's job was only to decide on how much money Trump owed Carroll for what he said about her. Would it surprise me if the dollar amount was reduced? No. Would it surprise me if the dollar amount was significantly reduced? Yes.
     
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    His guilt had already been established. See post #22.
     
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    That's incorrect. They're going to appeal the original case. As evidenced by Habba saying they're going to appeal and pointing out how there was no evidence of her claims, the judge refused to allow him to produce his DNA (claiming it was "too late") and the judge pre-emptively refused essentially all of their defense at the trial.
     
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    Juries of the sexual abuser's peers who assessed all the evidence and the sexual abuser's defense determined the verdict.

    If the sexual abuser can't remember Carroll, confuses her with a previous trophy wife, or someone he calls "‘Nimrada," or Nancy Pelosi, his mental deterioration is not grounds for appeal.

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