E. Jean Carroll is a rich woman.

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  1. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Lol that's not evidence of her claims and will never stand up on appeal lol

    btw there will be no innominate jury on appeal lol good luck
     
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    If you have knowledge of the juries of the sexual abuser's peers conspiring to convict him rather than assessing the evidence against him to reach a verdict, you need to share your privileged information and your sources for it.
     
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    What evidence? Lol what evidence of her claim did she present?

    Don't worry. I'll wait.
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could you provide a link to that information? Thanks.
    Remember, in a civil case the jury makes its determination on the preponderance of evidence. Not the reasonable doubt standard in a criminal case. Making grounds to appeal the original decision tenuous at best.
     
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    Don't know, I wasn't in the courtroom and I wasn't on the jury.
    Whatever evidence she presented was enough to convince a jury (in a unanimous decision) that Trump should pay her 83 million dollars. It was enough to convince ANOTHER jury (also unanimous) that Trump should pay her 5 million dollars. Trump had his opportunity in court to present his side of the case, it didn't convince anyone on the jury that her side of the story was false.

    You know what else?
    You weren't there either so you have no idea what the evidence was.
     
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    Every time there is a finding against Trump, every time he is ordered to pay civil damages, every time he is indicted, every time a court rules against him..the Trump supporters have to add another dozen or more individuals to the list of those involved in this massive conspiracy against him. Another dozen of so people who have broken the law (or did something unethical) "to get him". We now have hundreds, if not a thousand, people on that list...and they have to keep adding to it instead of just admitting that ONE man is just a shi**y human being.
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She put her credibility up against his and the jury found her to be credible. My question to you is if an appeal was possible why didn't he make one when the case was originally decided? Actually, I think he did. He appealed the case in which he had to pay her $5M and lost.

    NEW YORK (AP) — A federal judge on Wednesday upheld a $5 million jury verdict against Donald Trump, rejecting the former president’s claims that the award was excessive and that the jury vindicated him by failing to conclude he raped a columnist in a luxury department store dressing room in the 1990s.

    Judge Lewis A. Kaplan said the jury’s May award of compensatory and punitive damages to writer E. Jean Carroll for sexual abuse and defamation in the civil case was reasonable.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-trial-columnist-carroll-4974ef026f3da61bc6f1b7ddda3ad10e

    Notice the appeal was over the amount to be paid, not the verdict?
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've had the same thought many times. Thanks for expressing it so eloquently.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

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    Yeah, right. Over an event the supposedly happened in the 90s. But nothing was brought forward until he was in politics. Uh huh. Sure. You keep drinking that kool-aid.

    The hyper partisan left think they are accomplishing something with this BS? Your right. I have never voted for Trump, this time I will. Preserving the institutions of government from being used to play combat politics is FAR more important than my disdain for Trump.

    Hyper partisan lefties are way more dangerous than Trump.


    Ah, and then typical leftwing strawman.

    I'm a Libertarian, you aren't making any effect with your little deflection attempts.

    I'm pissed that the crybaby left are willing to stop at nothing, including weaponizing government and system trying to dictate elections. Simply **** them.

    #1 enemy of democracy. **** the crybaby left. I'll vote for Trump every chance until these losers return to mom's basement and shut up.
     
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    "Trump's lawyer, Alina Habba, immediately said they would appeal the decision to the Supreme Court, later offered an "updated" statement, saying, "The Second Circuit’s ruling is fundamentally flawed and we will continue to pursue Justice and appropriate resolution."
     
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  11. Lee Atwater

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    I think it REALLY hurts.

    Not sure he really IS worth $10B, though. It would appear like it hurts him more than it would to somebody who has that kind of money. We will have a better idea about how much he's REALLY worth when he loses his New York Bank fraud trial.
     
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  13. Lee Atwater

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    You might want to think twice before believing an inveterate liar like Don when it comes to his claims of personal worth. He's on trial in NY for fraud regarding that sort of thing.
    But isn't it delicious that the jury awarded Carroll so much money in part due to his claim of enormous wealth.
     
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    See post #31.
     
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    He likely will appeal. But the kicker here (and for the looming financial verdict in the NY fraud trial) is that he will have to put the full amount in a bond if he wants to appeal. I think by Feb 1st we will see how much money Trump really has.
     
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    I think it's 10 or 20% in escrow and she'll likely be able to draw down on it. He can get someone else to put up that bond if he can continue to find "marks".
     
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    In no world would she have made that kind of money if Trump never denied her claims of harassment. (note: denial is now defamation according to the left and a corrupt judicial system)
     
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    Habba's statement about appealing the 2nd Circuit's decision has nothing to do with the amount of damages awarded in the Carroll case.

    It refers to the 2nd Circuit's decision regarding Trump's claim of presidential immunity.
     
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    And?

    Just admit it.

    This, like every other investigation, charge, indictment, and accusation is driven by hyper partisan political agendas.

    I wish somebody in the left actually had the balls to admit it.
     
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    I had a conversation with a judge I know who lives in NY and she said Trump is indeed appealing the original finding of his liability for sexually abusing Carroll. Other than Don's outrage at being held accountable for his actions there is no reason to believe the case won't hold up on appeal. But then Trump has infected the judiciary with a lot of hacks like Judge Cannon so nothing is a sure thing.
     
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    Every time there is a finding against Trump, every time he is ordered to pay civil damages, every time he is indicted, every time a court rules against him..the Trump supporters have to add another dozen or more individuals to the list of those involved in this massive conspiracy against him. Another dozen of so people who have broken the law (or did something unethical) "to get him". We now have hundreds, if not a thousand, people on that list...and they have to keep adding to it instead of just admitting that ONE man is just a shi**y human being.
     
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    His ego costs him millions. What an ass hat.
     
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    To be fair to The Donald, he's a malignant narcissist and has always had the family money to surround himself with people that feed his severe mental and personality defect. He simply cannot help himself unless that the mood and then that is also short term.
     
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    Wonder what will he do when President Biden beats him again ? Sell Mara Lago and move to Russia ?
     
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