Biden offers fresh assurances he would shut down border ‘right now’ if Congress sends him a deal

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    See, they demand information.
    Did they get it? Since it doesn't exist, they likely did not.

    Dog an pony show over a fox lies story.

    Give the quote or the admission from Mayorkis himself.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    LOL. A twitter post. What desperation.

    You must be having trouble finding Mayorkis' quote. A week has gone by and you haven't provided it.
     
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    You just ignored it, again... just as I said you've been doing. :sunnysideup:

    I repeat, what percentage of people who were "apprehended" do you believe are being released into the interior. You're saying those numbers are wrong, so you must have an idea of what the actual number is.

    Also, you never questioned anonymous sources from CNN or MSNBC, so you don't get to play that card now. It's a hyper-partisan fallacy when people were happily spreading misinformation based on anonymous sources from inside the Trump administration. I don't believe you have had a change of heart and actually start caring about this now. Mykoris's [sic] statements under oath coincide closely with the report from Border Patrol.
     
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    Here you go Dairy, since you can't educate yourself on a matter that you have such strong opinions of.
    According to DHS here are the immigrants not granted admissions
    2019
    287,977 Not admitted

    2020
    241,763 Not Admitted

    2021
    294,351 Not Admitted

    2022
    551,928 Not Admitted

    I'm shocked you think the cartels are so stupid that they don't know what to tell there paying immigrants what to say to get into Biden's open border.

    https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-12/2023_0818_plcy_yearbook_enforcement_fy2022.xlsx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK

    Compared to how many encounters:https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
    2021 1.7m encounters
    2022 2.3 m encounters
    2023 2.4m encounters
     
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    It's important to note the vast majority of people who were denied entry were denied under Title 42, which the Biden admin fought very hard to end, even while the pandemic emergency powers were still in effect. In the middle of 2023 it was ended and now the vast majority are being admitted. That is why current estimates of migrants being admitted is so much higher.

    They've always been admitting most of the migrants, but as of late the problem has multiplied due to the Biden administration finally being successful in ending Title 42. They were denied by the courts for a while because they kept trying to do it illegally faster than the law allowed and by breaking the law on the procedure to do it.

    When he told Border Patrol the number was at least 85% it was because they called him out on at least 70% when he testified to Congress. They see everyone being released. The real number is probably somewhere in the 90s, which is also why they have stopped giving the number out and have refused releasing the numbers to oversight by Congress. They are trying to hide what they're doing during an election year. And based on certain posters in this thread it is working. We see people covering theirs, closing their eyes, etc.
     
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    See post 520 where the Border Patrol Tweeted that Mayorkas said the number is above 85%, are they fake people telling lies?

    You won’t cite a number but you claim that any number that is cited is a lie. You won’t tell us where all these millions of illegals are detained. All you want to do is deny anything that makes Biden, Harris and Mayorkas look bad. And if anyone lied, it’s those three people.
     
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    So now the border patrol are lying fake people. You know, everyone can see your posts and your desperation. Have you wondered why no libs are backing you up? It’s probably because they know better.
     
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    What have I ignored?
    Just fox lies. As they lie and the story is made up.

    The thread isn't about you lying about me. Stick to the topic and post a link to Maykoris quote or just pretend you believe fox lies.
     
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    What BS are you trying to pull? Here's what your 1st link goes to.
    upload_2024-2-11_14-51-34.png

    Your 2nd link is the same data I've presented this entire thread. Only my link includes a chart.
    upload_2024-2-11_14-53-23.png
    US border apprehensions (usafacts.org)

    Why don't you just post the actual quote or actual figures and stop with the game playing.
     
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    Who is the border patrol. There's 100s of thousands of them.
    Post the actual quote of Mayorkis. If he said it, there's a quote.
     
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    Name those border patrol people? More lies from fox?
     
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    Who is the person who made that chart? More fake people and lies?

    Man, you sure can beat a dead horse.
     
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    We did it Joe!!!

    NY, Vermont, New Hampshire see record illegal border crossings as more migrants enter Canada

    New York, Vermont and New Hampshire counties have seen a record uptick in illegal border crossings in the last quarter as more migrants are reportedly crossing into Canada to avoid detection.

    As more migrants swarm the southern border, increasing numbers have turned to the less-fortified, more expansive U.S.-Canada border, the New York Times noted in a report published Sunday, detailing how U.S. officials at the northern border have recorded 191,603 encounters with people crossing into the United States last year, a 41% increase from 2022.

    While most still use legal ports of entry, more than 12,200 migrants were apprehended crossing illegally from Canada in 2023, a 241% uptick from the 3,578 arrested the previous year.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-vermo...llegal-border-crossings-migrants-enter-canada
     
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    What I just explained you have been ignoring in the post you responded to, and you have done it again... not surprisingly. You've been asked repeatedly what percentage you believe are being released into America and you've been asked repeatedly if you understand the difference between an apprehension and a removal because you are using reported numbers of apprehensions to validate claims of removals which is foolish.
    You've been provided links to reports of "Maykoris" [sic] describing the percentages of migrants being admitted into America. Considering you've conjured multiple misspellings of "Maykoris's" [sic] name, I don't believe it is a stretch to assume that you don't really know much about this topic to make a determination of what is a lie and what is reality. Learning to spell his name correctly would go a long way in growing confidence in what you claim is a "lie." Another thing you could do is provide your opinion of what number of migrants are currently being released into America. If you're claiming everyone else is "lying," I assume you aren't doing that out of 100% sheer ignorance and you have documentation to validate your baseless accusation of other people "lying."
     
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    Wow, well said.

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    Read the dang link. That's why it's there. Sheesh.
     
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    What I personally believe is NOT the topic. It's a deflection from you. Because you have no argument.
    Post the quote. Or else you're just repeating fox lies.
     
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    Yes it is. Because you keep repeating that you believe other people are "lying" and then you post the same stupid graph of "apprehensions" to defend your baseless opinion of what is truthful regarding the number of people being released into the interior. All of your points are based on your uninformed opinion while making personal attacks against others by accusing them of lying. Yet, you have demonstrated you don't even know the name of the people you are discussing and have provided no evidence to validate your assertions about others. It's nonsensical and quite embarrassing.
     
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    I said fox lies.
    If they don't lie, you and others would already post the actual quote.

    But you don't. You deflect and dodge. There's a reason for that. Fox lies.

    I have posted no opinion. Just the facts of border apprehension. You must keep deflecting with BS.
    Just try to defend fox lies and leave me out of it.
     
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    Your apprehensions match the encounters, those returned or deported are from the Department of Homeland Security, as you see in the link. <Rule 2> You asked for the numbers and now you have them from dhs.gov.
     
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    Dude, you have a Tweet that came directly from the border patrol, what more do you want? And how do you know it's a lie when you don't know the number yourself? Stop with the broken record trolling.
     
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    These are the people who are seeking asylum from oppression and violence that Biden allowed to enter our country and are protected from being deported in sanctuary cities.

    NYC migrant moped gang ringleader makes chilling admission about crime network: ‘It’s much bigger than me’

    The migrant moped gangs terrorizing the Big Apple are part of an illicit network of hoods peddling stolen goods from the five boroughs in Florida — and shipping the proceeds to South America, law enforcement sources told The Post.

    “It’s much bigger than me,” accused migrant ringleader Franco Alexander Peraza Navas allegedly told the NYPD after getting nabbed for a string of local heists.

    “In a million years, I never thought you’d catch me,” Navas, 30, allegedly told detectives. “I’ve been going to Miami every three weeks. And it’s much bigger than me.”

    The Venezuelan migrant is allegedly part of a crew that has been linked to robberies throughout New York City, Yonkers, New Jersey and Florida — and tied to an illegal gun used in a Fort Lauderdale armed heist on Dec. 9, the sources said.

    The same gun was used in a $279,000 gunpoint robbery at Solid Gold Jewelry in Manhattan on Nov. 22.

    Navas and his alleged accomplices are suspected in other Big Apple incidents, including a shootout with another crew in the Bronx on Nov. 18, and a Bergen County robbery that is still under investigation.

    https://nypost.com/2024/02/12/news/...-about-crime-network-its-much-bigger-than-me/
     
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    So what. There's a 100K border patrol people. Anyone can post a tweet.
    Post Mayorkas quotes. Stop trolling with tweets and fox lies BS.

    Try something that isn't considered conspiracy theories.
    Why won't any of you post Myorkas' quote?
     
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    Why do you continue with your ridiculous argument? First of all, I doubt all 100k agents have access to the BP Twitter account. Second, the BP did quote Mayorkas when they paraphrased what he said. Third, Fox reported what the BP said which means they didn't lie, they reported.

    My guess is the reason why you're being so unreasonable is because you're embarrassed by the way Biden, Harris and Mayorkas opened up the border and released millions of illegals into the country.
     
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    I am not the one repeating the ridiculous claim from fox lies.
    You won't post the Mayorkas quote. Admit it was never said. Stop repeating the lies.
    Then you double down on fox lies with anonymous tweets. Sheesh.

    Here's the only thing I've claimed in this thread, besides your fox lies argument.
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