Joe Biden 'enabled' family to sell access to 'dangerous adversaries,' Tony Bobulinski testifies

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  1. dairyair

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    Apparently this dude isn't very trust worthy.

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    IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
    • Tony Bobulinski is a former Navy lieutenant and business partner of Hunter Biden.

    • In statements and an interview with Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Bobulinski claimed Joe Biden was involved in one of his family’s business ventures with a Chinese oil company.

    • Credible news organizations have found no evidence to corroborate Bobulinski’s claims about a role in the proposed venture for Joe Biden. Joe Biden’s financial documents show no indication of any income related to the venture.

    • In the mid-2010s, Hunter Biden was involved in multiple business dealings with Chinese companies. There is no evidence that his father played a role in any of them.
      PolitiFact | Tony Bobulinski, Hunter Biden and China: an explainer
     
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  2. Hey Now

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    Amazing the self fulfilling prophesy of Russians/Russian cutouts under every rock one turns over near Trump and his close associates. Never thought I'd see it near a POTUS but there it is.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An opinion that fails to rebut/refute any of the "critically important facts" that Bobulinski prepared in the opening statement of his testimony.
     
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    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Well, that's a new one, trash the witness and claim they're untrustworthy so we can't take what they say as the truth. What a unique strategy.
     
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    I just did a search of what came of the Monday hearing, there was nothing revealed that hadn't come out before.
    Another issue is that much of his statement, at least so far revealed, was about Joe Biden after he was vp, so he was a regular citizen, which means if he was on a board for an international company, it was perfectly legal.
    Maybe more will be revealed when the transcript is released, but so far big nothing burger.
    Hate to say it, but those who are waiting to see Joe impeached are being played. It's all a partisan political ploy, not really meant to have a real outcome, but to give fodder to innuendo and conspiracy theories.
    I have noticed something: that Trump supporters seem to be more open to conspiracy theories than the average person. Is it a cause or a symptom?
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    False, totally corroborated by records and other witness testimony why do you falsely assert otherwise? Post a link that reports he has no corroboration not just your uninformed opinion.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    And baseless invective refutes nothing. Refute his testimony with facts not fallacious simple dismissals.
     
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    Penn State? Really? Of, well, then, that explains it. The CCP needs favors from American academia if they're going to take us over, right?

    And yes, that was sarcasm. I don't want to insult anyone, or to sound dismissive, but the right tends to overdramatize most things, and I'm sick of the ridiculous crap about a man who holds no office and never will, simply because you all hate his father, and because you know your guy, Trump, is corrupt, dishonest, and as crooked as they come, and there are no depths to which the right won't sink in order to dirty up his opponent.

    It's one of the most pathetic things I've ever experienced, and I'm far from young.
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    Then post something that refutes his testimony instead of your self-serving bromides and platitudes.
     
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  10. Hey Now

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    Ironic post given post #105, but look at it this way, your partisan hunting doges simply can't hunt or there is zero there there but the desperation for the smear to stick. Surely "the" folk that flog this B/S have better game somewhere?
     
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    When did Biden say he NEVER EVER NOT ONCE discussed his sons business except when he was not serving as Vice-President? Why do you assert ALL of the business dealings occurred in 2017?
     
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    Your bromides and platitudes refute nothing, post something that refutes is sworn testimony and records he produced.
     
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    And yet, you know nothing else about him. You don't know his personality, his motivations, his personal relationship with Hunter (business partners are not always friends and often come to deep disagreements).

    I gave you a link with a quote about the refutation of all Bobulinski's bee ess by Hunter's other business partners. Did you bother to read it? I guess not. Just the fact that Bobulinski was in business briefly with Hunter, and is telling you what you want to hear, is good enough for you? I thought better of you. My bad.
     
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    Sorry, I'm not familiar with that. And what does it have to do with doing your research before posting nonsense?
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    As long as you are going to use AI as a source


    Created by AI


    To understand the Bobulinski testimony, consider the following points:

    • Bobulinski is a former business associate of Hunter Biden.
    • In his testimony, Bobulinski claims that Joe Biden was aware of Hunter's business dealings.
    • Bobulinski alleges that Joe Biden's involvement in these business dealings contradicts his previous statements.
    • The testimony includes text messages and emails as evidence of the alleged involvement.
    • Bobulinski cooperated with Senate committees in their investigation into Hunter Biden's business activities.
    • The testimony has sparked political controversy and scrutiny during the 2020 presidential election.
    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_yl...text=Created by AI,2020 presidential election.

    Now what do you have to refute his sworn testimony?
     
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    Do we? How do we know? It seems likely that they discussed Hunter's business, but unless you were there, how do you know? And rides on AF2 to countries that Joe was visiting do not indicate any criminal or even unethical activity. If Joe is going there anyway, what difference does it make if Hunter or anyone else hitched a ride?

    You have no idea about the details of the private conversations between a father and his son. I'm so sick of hearing all this baseless, evidence-free bullshit. The desperation to dirty up Joe is nothing more than the right, knowing that their guy us corrupt and guilty, trying to balance a scale that can never be balanced.

    I've said it many times, and I'll keep saying it: this entire Hunter nonsense is pathetic.
     
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    Started with the very first responses and here to page 5 and not one single person can refute one singe fact in his testimony. Invective and self serving simple dismissals is all that is offered.
     
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    You keep repeating this attack above as if it's a strong position while ironically exposing that the overuse of it relegates it to spamming the thread. If you have no debate or discourse position or it's just really weak, just give it a rest because it's becoming a bit embarrassing IMO. There is no there, there, Joey's legal and above board!
     
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    Bobulinski is full of crap, according to at least eight other business partners. Deal with it, please.
     
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    Then simply explain why the Biden family was getting tens of millions of dollars from some of our worst adversaries being deposited in their personal bank accounts. We KNOW Biden discussed the business from emails and text messages and witness testimony. We know he knew what it was about and facilitated it. We know their lies shifted from he had NO knowledge AT ALL, zip nada to he wasn't involved AT ALL zip nada, to he had no FINANCIAL INTEREST.............they started out lying and have yet to show what the business WAS if it was not the selling of influence. And you can't either.
     
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    It's not an attack it's request you backup YOUR ATTACKS on Bobulinski and refute his testimony and records produced. How about simply explain why the Biden family was getting tens of millions of dollars from some of our worst adversaries being deposited in their personal bank accounts. Refute what Bobulinski testified under oath.
     
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    Can you link me to their testimony that refutes what Bobulinski testified. Can you point me to what proves the Biden's business was some legal product or service and the records to back it up?
     
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    You are flogging a dead horsey, dead as a door nail. The fact that you are so committed to this nonsense that limits your posts to basic spam just shows how weak this House line of attack on Joe Biden is. It's desperate and it's not sticking. Bo Bo is a clown, controlled by a Russian oligarch, see the post quoted in post #102 by me, it was posted by @PPark66 and it's puts your and the Bo Bo nonsense into context. Now, you might want to get ready for clean up on the Moscow aisle.
     
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    So you are trying to convince everyone, that Hunter, all by himself, with multiple DUI and drug arrest, dishonorable military discharge, with hundreds of drug fueled youtube videos with hookers, cocaine, and meth, was able to convince and manipulate over 20 million dollars, from foreign nationals, to be dispersed to the Biden family members, through 24 shell corporations that were never reported to the IRS or the SEC, with no products or services to sell, couldn't possibly have anything to do with his fathers influence.

    Is this what you're trying to sell?
    You might have convinced yourself of that horseshit but you aren't going to convince the voters of that.
     
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    I'll deal with the evidence he presented. I suggest you deal with it, too,
     
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