Putin Says Russia Prefers Biden Over Trump in U.S. Election

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Biden tried to reduce the asylum claims but was shot down by the courts
     
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    So you don’t deny that 3 of Biden’s predecessor f*** UP in Afghanistan. But your problem is how Biden administration existed the “Fu***ed war”. There were no better solution then leave the F****UP war behind asap and that is what Biden did and saved American lives.
     
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    And this statement alone, shows the weakness and the unreliability of the NATO alliance. It would appear that NATO can only stand, if the United States stands as its principle party. If the US were to leave NATO, by Bolton's own admission(and that of the Washington Slime), NATO would be compromised.

    That sounds to me like an 'entangling' alliance, and not a very promising one. And by all logistical factors, there's a time lag before we're able to intervene in Europe(hence the forward deployment bases.)

    All of this, for an ally that failed to secure peace and prosperity in Europe. An ally that has failed to modernize her spending while at the same time they had gas deals with Russia prior to the war.

    The European Union undermines the US mission in Europe, at every opportunity it gets.
     
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    Putin says.......LOL :D

    He sure knows how to play the MAGGATs

    Of course. He would have offered Ukraine to him in silver platter, and HE WILL if elected.
     
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    Ukraine isn't a US State or protectorate. It's not even a member of NATO. It's not about offering anything, it's getting off this sinking ship. Even Biden wants to get off the ship.
     
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    That's why Putin wants Trump to win, - to get US out of the way so he can establish and expand the new USSR.
     
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    Most likely due to his resume.
    He served as the 25th United States Ambassador to the United Nations from 2005 to 2006,
    Served as a United States Assistant Attorney General for President Reagan.
    Served in the State Department as Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs,
    Served as Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs.
    He was the United States Ambassador to the United Nations,

    When Bolton became adamant about going to war with Iraq, Trump fired him.

    Yet leftist like yourself, go apoplectic over Trump hiring him, while at the same time hang on to and regurgitate every word Bolton ever says in his book likes its gospel.
    Hilarious to watch thought.
     
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    We have all of the problems we have now, because of the dissolution of the USSR. Much like the Treaty of Versailles before it, it created smaller states to be competed with the two major powers(EU and Russia), and leave no illusion all we're doing is picking one power over the other.

    That's been the nature of Europe over the last century. Land territory and war. Given this, it was more stable for world security to have a powerful USSR than what we have now.

    The Washington counter argument would be that Russia could just not compete for the territory, but the EU had past and present grievances with Russia. In the lead up to the war, communications effectively broke down and in many cases, never even started.

    I've proposed a new Congress of Vienna to end the war. A series of high stakes negotiations between all of the involved European parties in the conflict to address these century long disputes and to remedy them.
     
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    Oh Please
    Putin waited until Trump was out of office to invade Ukraine when he had his army on the border of Ukraine since 2019.
    Trump killed hundreds of Russians in Syria giving the non responding Putin a black eye on the world stage.

    What does Biden offer?

    Biden can't even complete an entire sentence without losing his train of thought.
    Biden has provided billions to terrorist in Iran from US sanctioned accounts.
    Biden and his family have but America up for sale to the highest bidder with 24 shell accounts hosting over 20 million from foreign adversaries and distributed to 9 Biden family members. Which is one reason Hunter was already indicted for tax fraud and tax evasion.
    Biden has allowed over 7 million illegals to roam the US, 4 times higher than any president in history and his new bill allows 1.8 million per year, which is why it was shot down.

    Dementia Biden is a US adversaries dream
     
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    No, they did not have them at the border in 2019. They attacked when they were ready. What do you think Trump would have done about it, and what is he going to do now? Put boots on the ground?
     
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    You are right, without USA , NATO is a paper tiger. But same thing true the other way. Without NATO alliance USA is not a superpowers.

    What you failed to understand is that alliance is what makes America strong. American needs Europe as much Europe needs America.
     
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    So trump don’t know how to higher people. It seems like common trend. In Trump 4 years he replaced 4 AG, 3 Sec Dev, 4 Chief of Staff, 3 National Security Advisor and more.

    May be problem is Trump and not all these people.
     
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    They have been in Crimea since 2014 and after annexation moved even more troops into Crimea. lol

    Yup, they sure did, just as soon as Trump was out of office.

    Sent a carrier group down the coast of Ukraine and told Putin to back off to face the US and NATO.
    Just like he did in North Korea.
    Just like he did in Syria killing hundreds of Russian troops without a single response from Putin.

    There is nothing left to save. Ukraine is in rubble and they don't have enough people to even throw at it any more.
    Now its just a matter of attrition.
     
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    A paper tiger with an army of 2 million men + navies and air forces. They could go without the US, and they are in fact talking about the potential US withdrawal in Brussels today. They should probably consider getting rid of Turkey too.
     
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    They did not amass the troops at the border in 2019 as you claimed.

    The invasion was in mid 2022. Trump was voted out in 2020.

    Funny he never said that that he would send in the US military. So, he would actually send US troops to war against Russia.

    We need to make sure he will not win in 2024.
     
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    You are right. My choice of word “ paper tiger” is too extreme. After all last 4 superpowers in world history came from Europe.

    My point is the current NATO alliance is what made it so successful in past 80 years. Anyone who thinks to break them apart truly don’t understand international politics or support Russian aggression.
     
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    Is there going to be an end to the rambling of what ifs?
    How does this have anything to do with Boltons qualifications again?
    Did you not know every president in history has fired and replaced dozens of cabinet officials?
     
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    Sorry .. POTUS don’t replace cabinet post like dirty underwear like Trump did. You should look up those facts.
     
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    And Biden is the one who invited this invasion in the first place. In 2019 at the first Democrat presidential debate, he came right and announced, that should he become president there should be an immediate "surge to the border".
    Then on day one of his presidency, he halted further border wall construction, and ended all Trump-era border security measures.
    He sent the message out loud and clear that this nation was open for these people to flood in, and sure enough, from the time he entered the White House, the #'s of third-worlders flooding increased, and record #'s have came in ever since.
     
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    People think US is paying for it, but we're not, and they also think if we leave we'd save money, but the opposite is true. We'd have to replace NATO with something, and that would cost a lot of money/ NATO has worked, and it worked even when USSR was at its strongest. Is it obsolete? Can Europe replace it with another alliance which excludes the US? I believe they could. I wish I was a fly on the wall in Brussels while they discuss potential US withdrawal in case Trump wins.
     
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    They were amassing troops in Crimea. Did you know know Crimea borders Ukraine?
    Why did you think Trump (the only president in US history) approved the sale of lethal weapons for Ukraine in 2017?

    Because Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since 2014, shortly after Russia occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people.

    Do you guys just decide to ignore reality, or do you just not know any better?
    Its amazing how there are so many historical holes in what you post.


    Thanks for making my point

    Funny, Putin never threatened to invade Ukraine while Trump was in office.
    Why would Trump state he would send the US military without any threat from Putin?

    He would have done the same thing he successfully did with North Korea and Russia when he was in office.
    Attacked and killed hundreds of Russia soldiers in Syria for using poison gas against civilians.
    Trump was the first US president to even give lethal arms to Ukraine against Russia.
    Care to tell us what Putin did about it? NOTHING, NADA,
    Trump won't back down and coware or spend 75 billion of tax payer money instead of taking a stand, unlike are current dementia in chief.

    RIght, because having a dementia in chief in charge that can't even complete an entire sentence without losing his train of thought.
    and provided billions to terrorist in Iran from US sanctioned accounts.
    while his family have but America up for sale to the highest bidder with 24 shell accounts hosting over 20 million from foreign adversaries and distributed to 9 Biden family members.
    and allowing over 7 million illegals to roam the US, 4 times higher than any president in history and his new bill allows 1.8 million per year, which is why it was shot down.

    is a much better option for you?
    Well, alrighty then
     
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    :roflol:
    Wow, that looks familiar...:bored:
    Oh, that's right...
    Straight from the Copypasta Files. Post #87:
    My suggestion is some NEW material...
    Nothing personal, just a friendly suggestion...
    Anyway, as to the OP Topic of Putin "preferring Biden":
    Clearly, Putin wants his Puppet Trump in charge...
    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't really care.
    You should find someone who does
     
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    Nope, never happened and you have provided nothing to verify it.
     
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    So again, your lack of actual knowledge on the facts it quite glaring to say the least, but not surprising.

    Russia was amassing troops in Crimea in as early as 2017. Did you know Crimea borders Ukraine?
    Because Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its eastern provinces since Russia occupied and annexed Crimea, in a war that has claimed approximately 13,000 lives and displaced 1.5 million people, Trump (the only president in US history) approved the sale of lethal weapons for Ukraine in 2017 to use against Russian tanks.

    Do you guys just decide to ignore reality, or do you just not know any better?
    Its amazing how there are so many historical holes in what you post.
     

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