FBI informant charged with lying about Joe and Hunter Biden’s ties to Ukrainian energy company

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    :roflol:
    More of the Same Warmed-Over Copypasta...:bored:
    Which PROVES NOTHING Directly Implicating Joe...
    Key Question:
    Does any of that so-called "evidence" DIRECTLY implicate Joe?
    Yes or No? Simple question...
    Because, if NOT...then...:bored:
     
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    Excellent thoughts, b.a.
    Crazy to see taxpayer money and time being wasted on this ludicrous BS while the shutdown deadline is looming, etc...
     
  4. Condor060

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    Yeah, you should run with that.
    When its all you have, its all you have.
    I'm sure you can win over voters with name calling and insults.
    We are all counting on it.

    Is that something you saw someone else post?
    Hilarious
     
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    It wasn't Comer who discovered anything. It was bank investigators, who have testified, they were tracking 20 accounts, hosting 24 million dollars, from 5 foreign nationals, and distributed to 9 Biden family members.

    Yet the Biden family has no services or products provided.
    None of those accounts were reported to the SEC, so Hunter can't claim its investment capital.
    None of those accounts have an EIN so they are not reported to the IRS.

    Coupled with Joe Biden found lying about his involvement with Hunters foreign business associates, I don't think it takes a lot of imagination to know whats going on. The impeachment inquiry is using the evidence they have found to prove Joes involvement.

    Testimony from Hunters own business associates.
    The IRS
    The FBI

    And as of tomorrow, Hunter will be deposed. He is going to have to explain what products or services he provided to earn 24 million from China, Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan. He can claim the 5th if he wants, but that only fuels the investigation.

    That isn't something new. Republicans provided HR2 to stop the illegal crossings back in May yet Schumer refuses to put it to vote in the Senate.
    Then they produce a new immigration bill that allows 1.8 million illegals into the US per year?

    So yes, you're right. The country is so divided that they ONLY way to get anything done is to have both the House and the Senate. And that doesn't even guarantee anything without the President.

    So when you have Democrats taking the 14th amendment out of context to remove a presidential candidate from ballots, pulling a presidential candidate into a NY court room and fining him 400 million for bank fraud, when the bank claims they were never defrauded, 8 million illegals rushing into the US while the WH fights against Texas to stop Texas from protecting their border, providing a Georgia DA, who visited the WH on her get Trump policy, to find out she is knowingly falsifying information to the court and lying under oath,
    Yeah, its a mud fight.

    I don't want either Biden or Trump but you can consider this.

    Who in their right mind, would ever run for president, knowing what depths both parties will go to take them and their families down, 24/7.
    So who looses? Every American.
     
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    @balancing act
    ""The bank records and other data do seem to show a pattern of unusual transactions, and there may be nefarious activity involved. We don't know FOR SURE, but there does seem to be smoke. Hunter Biden probably was hiding income from the IRS, but that has yet to be proven.""

    Interesting .... and who do you think has the responsibility to "prove" and investigate these crimes. We seem to get this stuff exposed, but it stops there..
     
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    IF their was any real evidence of wrong doing Comer Pyle would be coming at President Biden like a rodeo bull out of the shoot.

    [​IMG]

    But, in this case, that would be Comer Plye on the ground.
    OH, well why don't you share with us? Is it standard SOP for the tRumpublicans to sit on left wing wrong doing of any kind? I don't think so.
    I can't find anything "of the committee" worthy of dispute since they set up shop. :wtf: Mostly they keep doing face plants like that cowboy coming off the bull.
     
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    I would imagine the IRS or FBI, but I'm not an expert.
    Again, going from memory, if a Congressional hearing comes up on illegal activity that isn't in their wheelhouse, don't they use something called a "referral" to direct to the proper authorities?
    I do think, my opinion only, that when the smoke clears, Hunter will be shown to have skirted some laws and regulations for either IRS tax avoidance or to avoid showing on his income because he was ordered to pay child support and additional income would result in an increase in child support. But that's just me spitballing...........
     
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    I was engaged, IRL, in a conversation last night about this subject. It is now public knowledge that the committee had been warned by the FBI that the informant's intel couldn't be verified and might not be credible.
    1. Why did Comer publicize the informant so widely and confidently?
    2. Did they know the informant was feeding them Russian propaganda?
     
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    Let the education process begin.

    How Democrats DID do it
    1. Nancy Pelosi institutes an impeachment inquiry without a house vote. Shes just dumb that way.
    2. Then they find out their subpoenas are worthless because the House never voted or designated its power to the committee to submit subpoenas.
    3. Then they find out the WH refuses to provide information requested by their idiotic subpoenas because their subpoenas aren't worth the paper they are written on
    4. Then they call hearsay witnesses claiming they are 1st hand evidence
    5. Then they have their Chair read some ridiculous Soprano's dialog like its has anything to do with the inquiry
    6. Then Republicans destroy every witness brought forward by confirming under oath that they actually heard the evidence from someone else.
    7. Then 45 days later Democrats have their televised ceremony walking their impeachment documents to be recorded
    8. Then Pelosi holds up the process for 30 days trying to bargain with the Senate to allow more witnesses to testify, that have never been deposed, which is not the protocol of the Senate to do, making her look like the ignorant idiot she actually is. Of which she was turned down.
    9. Then getting exposed in the Senate for providing hearsay witnesses and doctored videos on live TV for everyone to see.
    10. And the final verdict is, Democrats faceplant on national TV when the verdict of Not Guilty is read by the Judge and they are exposed for their idiocy of not knowing how an impeachment inquiry works, how the Senate works, and getting caught with their desperation making fake videos for their presentation.
    How embarrassing

    How Republicans WILL do it
    1. They collect actual banking evidence and banking investigator testimony.
    2. They provide their evidence to the House and get a House vote to form their impeachment inquiry
    3. The House designates its powers of subpoena to their impeachment inquiry
    4. They use those powers properly provided to subpoena the evidence they need.
    4. They subpoena real witnesses like the IRS, the FBI, and former business partners of the Bidens, not people that heard something
    5. They subpoena Hunter Biden, who will be deposed tomorrow
    6. They refuse Hunters request to be deposed in public for his TV appearance, which only gives them 5 minutes each to question him
    7. They institute a real deposition where they can drill down for hours instead of allowing Hunter the opportunity to make his public spectacle.
    8. Once they are convinced they have collected all the evidence, they will provide their impeachment for the record.
    9. They won't hold up the process 30 days trying to whine to the Senate to allow them to bring in witnesses who have never been deposed
    10. As per the Senate guidelines, they will present their evidence and allow it to speak for itself.

    And they won't have to use infantile names, memes, or doctored videos to get their point across.

    Got it?
     
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    Then why would the FBI director (Wray) take the stand and tell the committee he couldn't release the informants name because he was a 14 year trusted and credible resource paid hundreds of thousands of dollars working on other investigations?

    Then once the committee subpoenaed Smirnovs 1023, the FBI charged Smirnov with lying?
     
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    Highlighted in red: That will be interesting to see what becomes of it, but the fact remains that this is an impeachment inquiry, and what private citizen Hunter, and what private citizen Joe, does isn't really part of an investigation by the House committee. What a family member does illegally does not implicate any other family members unless it can be proven. My gut instinct is that none of whatever is dug up about Hunter will have a direct correlation of illegal or improper activity on the part of Joe Biden. Again, not being an 'apologist' for Joe, just calling it like I see it.
    Highlighted in blue: people keep throwing up HR2, but they fail to understand how the process works. The House passes a bill (happened), then the Senate looks at the bill, makes the desired changes, and in this case, added the Border language, as requested by Republicans, (happened) and then it is sent back to the House to pass or change again, (Republicans refused to do this part), eventually the same language is passed in both parts of Congress, and it goes to the President to either approve or veto. What's the point of bringing up HR2 repeatedly? Seems like you're ignoring the process a bill goes through.
    Highlighted in purple: This is probably one of the reasons why we don't get the "best and brightest" in the White House. Not sure what would be a cure, as transparency and accountability is kind of required for the job, but as you say, what intelligent and savvy person would subject themselves to that scrutiny?
     
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    TLDR, Don't give a ****; get back to me when Comer Plye actually impeaches President Biden. I'll wait.

    GOT IT?
     
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    Can anyone show us where the FBI or the IRS has looked into it? We have some obvious odd plea deals that completely "smokes" up the whole process, that were rejected by a quick minded judge.... but the absence of getting to the meat of the deals is pretty obvious...
     
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    How can you call for an impeachment when the show is not over.... does the impeachment "INQUIRY" wording keep throwing you off? They still have more testimony, Hunter being one of them... the other testimonies have been damning for Joe Biden so far.... and Hunter's may add topping on the cake...

    The pink elephant in the room.... where are the DOJ investigations that Comer has uncovered..... the DOJ has had ALL this information for years and did nothing.... it is not the appearance of investigations and corrupt plea deals so far by the corrupt DOJ .... it is the lack of investigations that is telling by the corrupt DOJ...
     
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    This is about intel that couldn't be verified and might not be credible.
     
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    This is where the road becomes difficult to oversee for us private individuals. IF the FBI or IRS were investigating, we would not know of it because they don't make comments on ongoing investigations, for good reason.
    It is something to pay attention to for the future.
    I can tell you another thing though. With Comer's past record, I have come to not put any faith in what he says, as he has been intentionally misleading multiple times. Whistleblowers that really weren't, and the egg on his face Smirnov (sp?) 1023. He should have never even made it public until it was verified, and the FBI resisted turning it over to them because of that.
     
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    I think when the STAR witness got arrested for lying, the inquiry was over. The LooneyQ house trumpublican's can't move without stepping on their own dicks; especially MTG.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Not the point.
    Wray testified that he was a 14 year trusted and credible resource paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and refused to release his name.
    Then once the subpoena is issued and his 1023 is released, Wray charges Smirnov with lying on the very same 1023 filed in 2020?
    Not a good look
     
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    Where is the company located? Are they publicly traded on the US market? You fairy tale is falling apart.
     
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    I didn't know your were so limited.
    Guess I will have to stick to pictures and memes for you

    Yet you continue to attack every post over and over.
    Seems you don't give a s*** every time you get cornered.
    Like being unable to dispute known historical facts with your claims, it's much too long for your to be able to read. lol
     
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    Speaking of fairy tales, do tell us the name of the company are you asking questions about?
     
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    Yes you can. If you operate a business outside the US, take investment money from a source outside the US, and then invest in something outside the US, the SEC doesn't have to be involved. Not sure if that's the case with Hunter Biden, but it could be. Inside the US it's not even a given.
     
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    I am pretty sure every person on the planet knows that. We are talking about a US citizen with a US bank account taking millions from foreign nationals as a broker. Which is something Hunter can't claim.

    Hunter distributed the money to 9 Biden family members.
     
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    You should run down there and tell them so they don't depose Hunter tomorrow.
    You better hurry. lol
     
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