The minority's opinion on today's case is truly mindblowing.

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Being barred from office isn't a civil penalty. Not to mention, there has been no court trial (civil, nor criminal) that has found that Trump committed an insurrection.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Which Maine statutory provisions are you referring to?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The 5th and 6th Amendments.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes and the phuster cluck that would have arisen when Democrat presidential candidate started to get removed from ballot for their failure to protect we the people from foreign invaders and invasion.
     
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    If there is a Section 3 procedure specified by Congress (per SCOTUS' suggestion) for adjudicating if someone has or has not engaged in an insurrection, which determines, by a preponderance of the evidence, that a person has engaged in insurrection then actually it DOES mean something - it means they have been determined to be an insurrectionist, and will accordingly be disqualified.
     
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    @clennan
    The SCOTUS ruled Trump says on the ballot.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course it's a civil penalty. It's the outcome of a civil (non-criminal) proceeding that is accordingly not depriving anyone of life, liberty or property.

    Illinois and Colorado beg to differ that no court has found that Trump engaged in insurrection.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    But, there isn't and there won't be.
     
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    There was no trial. There has to be a trial.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The statutory provisions for adjudicating whether a candidate should be disqualified, whereby Trump WAS disqualified.

    You'll find full details via google.
     
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    Of course there was a trial. What do you think SCOTUS was ruling on?
     
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    You made the claim. You support it.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, there isn't. SCOTUS believes there should be. Congress will decide if there will be, or not.
     
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    There was no trial. No jury.
     
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    There won't be. It'll be left just as it is: insurrection is a criminal offense.
     
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    Not all trials have juries.
     
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    Unless the defendant waves his right to a trial by jury, there's a jury.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not true.
     
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    Absolutely true. The 6th and 7th Amendments say so.
     
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    Or an obese mob, huffing and puffing, ready to have heart attacks, to defend Orange Jesus.

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    False.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    How so?
     
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    I've posted it at least a dozen times. Not again.
     
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    No you haven't...lol
     
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    Insurrection is a crime and Trump has never been CONVICTED of ANY CRIME in ANY CRIMINAL COURT IN THE NATION.
     
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