State Of The Union Speech

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know what I pay each year in federal income taxes. It's more than over a hundred million Americans pay in total. Do I get the same benefits that those 100 million americans get?
     
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    I don't think moderates and independents like political violence either.
     
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    Just as well ;-)
     
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    Trump will be in trouble if he has to rely on the Black vote. I think when all is said and done, Biden will prevail substantially, especially after the media starts playing footage of quotes during the George Floyd era, the Charleston quotes, etc. Appeals from Kareem, Steph Curry, LeBron, Oprah, etc.
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think that was a major issue in his lie filled rant fest
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think far more independent voters identify with the nursing student murdered as a result of Biden's incompetence than a felon killed by a rogue police officer in a democrat run area
     
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    and the problem is???? ;-)

    But don't think that was the case at all.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    so attacking Trump, the Supreme Court etc was trying to unite the country? it took him 3/4 an hour to get to the most important issue-the border. Senile Joe, down in the polls, is not going to win with only the support of the rabid left
     
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    Biden does not RANT. but your hero certainly DOES. ( with no substance)

    If you have done some fact checking........let's see EXACTLY where the lies are.
     
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    It was not just a State of the Union address. It was a campagin speach too. Political season is in full bloom now. He was multi tasking ;-) ( and effectively too)
     
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    I don' have héroes in politics. I don't worship government. Biden's a senile pawn. Trump's a big mouthed braggart. Both of them speak in a most annoying fashion. But if you support individual freedom, less government, and American Primacy, Trump is the better of the two. If you want more collectivist authoritarianism, more dependency on the government, more violations of individual rights-support Biden
     
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    You keep asking questions but don’t seem to be able to answer any.

    As to your question though, you also have the same protections those people have — safety nets — so yes, you do enjoy those same benefits. Now I will agree there is abuse in these programs but it is not the majority. Want to know what is unavailable for the vast majority of Americans? A 2 million dollar gift from the government.

    That you seem more concerned about a family making 18 grand a year off the government but are silent on one person getting 2 million in a single year exposes your narrative.

    Feel free to go back an answer any of my questions if they won’t completely destroy your narrative.
     
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    Individual freedom? Like bodily autonomy?

    Less government? You mean the historic spending under trump? Quarantine easing? Trade wars?

    Authoritarianism? Like the president demanding absolute loyalty? Torpedoing investigations?

    Sure bro.
     
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    that's wrong and you know it-You seem to think that someone's existence is a just claim on the wealth of others.
     
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    does the fetus-have-at any point-bodily autonomy
    I don't see Trump demanding "absolute loyalty". I might vote for him while calling him a narcissistic pig. WTF is he going to do?
     
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    You are sounding like the “taxes are theft people”

    There are options if you don’t want live in a developed nation as we have discovered that it isn’t good for the nation to allow people to fall into abject poverty.

    As to what I know — I know that one of us has been able to respond to each question the other poses while the other is dodging each one.

    And that speaks volumes
     
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    Yes, when it has conscious
    He demands it for government employees

    I enjoy how you skipped over “less government”
     
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    Biden lied about Billionaire's tax rates

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/mar/08/biden-2024-state-of-the-union-address/

    PolitiFact "Biden said 'There are 1000 billionaires in America... the average federal taxes for those billionaires… 8.2%.
    ”That’s False. The wealthiest Americans currently pay an effective tax rate of more than 20% of their income, not 8%. . .


    The actual average tax rate the top 1% of taxpayers pay is more than three times what Biden said: 25.6%, according to IRS data from 2019. A more elite group, the top 0.001% — which in 2019 meant people earning about $60 million or more a year — paid 22.9%.

    there are less than 800 billionaires as well

    more to this

    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/factchecking-bidens-state-of-the-union/


    Biden’s brief talking point leaves the misleading impression that billionaires are only paying 8% on average in federal taxes under the current tax system.
     
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    well I left the DOJ midway in Obama's second term but I haven't had any of my close friends I worked with for over 20 years say that about Trump.


    Serious question-when does a fetus have a conscious
     
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    Hilarious. Ever heard one say being a husband comes first?
     
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    Not that recently.
    No, actually he was playing to American's that aren't going to vote for him. Hoping they would see that we ARE a strong nation STILL. That U.S. has a brilliant future ahead of us. That These United States are just getting warmed up. 8)
     
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    In your dreams. :wtf:
     
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    That's a good point. They will work to pump the race hate to 11, but, Trump is at least working for the Black vote, and he's the first in a very long time to do so.

    The only reason the Dems can even pretend to be a national party is with a high turnout near monolithic Black vote. If Trump pulls 15-20% of the Black vote, Bribed Joe's in real trouble.

    SOTU RESPONSE, BY THE NUMBERS

    'The official GOP response to Joe Biden’s SOTU hate-fest, by Senator Katie Britt. Britt’s speech was an impressive performance in its own way; if I were a Democrat, I think she would scare me. But for us data guys, Stephen Moore’s Unleash Prosperity Hotline has the numbers: A lot of tall tales and a few outright fabrications in the Biden speech last night.'

    “My administration cut the deficit by $1.7 trillion.”

    'This isn’t just a little bit false, it’s an extraordinary and audacious misstatement of fact. The baseline deficit over 10 years, as measured when Biden came into office versus the latest forecast, shows nearly $6 trillion added to the debt since Biden arrived on the scene.'

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    “We will make the rich pay their fair share.”

    'The top 1% of American tax filers now pay an all-time record high 46% of taxes. This is according to Biden’s own IRS. Does he think the rich should pay ALL the taxes?'

    'That is actually a good question. I think that for many Democrats, the answer may be Yes. But within reason, experience shows that lower rates mean higher collections, especially from high earners.'

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    “I inherited an economy [from Trump] that was on the brink…”

    'Actually, the economy grew by – ready for this? 33% in the third quarter of 2020 and 4.1% in the 4th quarter of 2020. The economy was in a full-scale COVID recovery when Biden came into office. Oh, and Inflation was 1.4%.
    Gas prices were $2.39 per gallon.'

    One would have to be fool, to be fooled by Bribed Demented Joe's lies. I don't think anyone is actually fooled and that even those defending Bribed Joe's lies, know he is lying.
     
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    no but that is not what you said. you said you hadn't heard male politicians talking about being wives or mothers. want me to repost your comment
     
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