The Diversity Experiment Has Failed Spectacularly...Bring Back The BEST QUALIFIED People!!

There you go again. A problem can not be fixed when it is ignored and it has been a huge problem for a large demographic. We as a country are trying to right past wrongs although the right is in denial and wish to make America great again. One of those ways, of many, is DEI, which you call "Orwellian" among other things without proof, its just a "fact". Not good enough.

 

I don't want to ignore racism. I want ot end it. DEI programs work to keep it going and push for more of it.
Giving a privileged Harvard kid an even easier ride and even more privilege because he happens to have the same skin tone as many kids born into poverty is racist.
Excluding a poor white kid from aid programs because he looks like the rich privileged kids is also racist.
Telling asian applicants that you have enough of their kind in your school, regardless of their test scores or ability, is also racist.

 

It is not orwellian it isn't that complicated it is simply a silly attempt to claim that they only way to solve racism in the past is to apply more racism today, This is the source of much of the lame educational ideas that have hit the ground running in the last few decades. Rather than try to solve the real problems of black kids trying to obtain a superior education we get rid of the programs that actually might help some of them if you just try them under the insane rubric that math or what ever is racist. That is both a stupid idea but it is self serving and lazy. After all if it's racist it isn't the teachers fault any more that the kids in his room aren't learning a damn thing beyond whining and complaining and a life time of stealing crap from other black people.

 

Tribalism.

 

Another term for "DEI" is Bioleninism. It is a theory of power that directly led to the murder of tens of millions of people. The problem with a competency hierarchy is that the most competent are the least loyal. They will always leave you for greener pastures. The least competent are always the most rabidly loyal. They will back to you to the death because they realize all of their success is directly due to your intervention in the market on their behalf. Lenin gave the least competent the power to murder and steal their more competent neighbors property. He accomplished two things with this, the elimination of highly competent people who would oppose him and the recruitment of loyal murderous misfits would were fiercely loyal to him. DEI is a softer version of the exact same thing. Take positions from highly competent people who deserve their position and give those positions to highly incompetent diversity hires who have no business in that position. The problem that DEI is having is that they are not killing these highly competent people and those highly competent people will become extremely dangerous to the regime as time goes on. DEI is creating a powerful class of counter revolutionaries with elite skills. They could become the organized minority that eventually seizes power.

 

You seen to be conflating DEI with AA (another dreaded acronym boogeyman).

How is it racist? You don't seem to know what DEI is.

Another conspiracy theory from HockeyDad that doesn't square with reality and you don't seem to to know what DEI is either. Right-wingers seem to spend a lot of time venting their spleen. Their racial fears seem to be enormous and yet they don't seem to think why that is or if they are legitimate. I have theories, but its early and the sun is out.

 

Edna, my dear, the very title implies racism. Diversity - different skin colors, different genitalia, as if some how truly competent people regardless of immutable characteristics can't excel regardless of race creed or color if you just get the government out of their damn way. Equity - equality of outcome regardless of effort, intelligence or capacity, it is a Marxian Trope that always leads to poverty in the long run. Inclusion, no matter how mad the hatter he deserves his place in the sun no matter how thoroughly he/she/it demonstrates his/her/its incompetence.

 

Nope, you guys want equity.

 

When you call things "bogeyman" it doesn't make them excusable or good. It isn't an argument. You haven't actually addressed anything written above.

 

I want fair and equal treatment and opportunity for all individuals regardless of their physical traits, religion, sexual orientation, etc. That's why I am far to the left on most political issues, am for universal health care, UBI, and a heavy tax and redistribution on inheritance. It is also why I am against all forms of racial discrimination, race hustling, and racism, including DEI. That so many claiming to be liberals are now pushing for rather than against racial discrmination is a flippingof the script.

 

The above is an example of a tactic that needs to be called out. Rather than addressing what the writer clearly states, the response to him/her nitpicks semantics (often wrongly) and bickers over terminology rather than the actual facts and concerns stated. We've seen the same with "racism" (purporting it means power+privilege so black people can't be racist) and "critical theory". Bicker over terminology and you need not address what is actually clearly being said.

 

Garyd, brother, clearly you have not kept up to date on the correct definition of the definition of racism. Fyi it basically encompasses power dynamics. A minority, for example, cannot be deemed racist, as is the standard accepted definition by racism scholars.

For what it's worth, there is only one race, however, our contemporary definition of races was codified in the slavery era, by white Europeans in the 18th century. Does that mean races of man only began in 1750?

 

Absurd.

 

Which only makes the idea more absurd not less.

 

Of course the accusation of racism is absurd to you for it is a threat to your status quo.

 

Well you're talking about meritocracy. The opposite to that is kakistocrocy this is created by nepotism and cronyism where the least qualified hold position of power.

The only other way to go is aristocracy.

Meritocracy is better than The other two in business by miles.

Essentially what diversity is, is cronyism. It'll always fail. And it's foundation is the soft bigotry of low expectations.

 

Well garyd, sweetums, are you trying to mansplain DEI to me? Diversity does not imply racism, which is a negative bias against a race. Well a lot of white racists feel set upon for their views, but that is another story and not DEI. What is disliked is not their race but the racism. Anyway, diversity can encompass race, ethnicity, gender, area of expertise, income level, sexuality... Diverse groups are more successful than the non-diverse.
You need to look up equity. You do not know what it means.
Inclusion need not disregard competence. That would be counterproductive and destructive. That would be stupid. Why make that assumption?

When I call the acronym boogeymen I am referring to the irrational reaction they cause in the right (and you). Anyway, I did address the above, what you posted was about affirmative action not DEI.

I am sure we can agree on the definition of racism and I asked what do you think is racist about DEI. You must have something in mind (that's not AA).

 

You want the equal outcome of every person on welfare to be off welfare.

 

where could you possibly come up with that.

 

So you don't want the equal outcome of every person on welfare to be off welfare?

 

yeah but the democrats sure don't. that doesn't necessarily mean equal outcomes

 

Yes we do and yes it does.

 

do you want to severely cut down on the people dependent on government?

 

I want people to stand up on their own as much as possible.

 

Laughable nonsense. One can almost always redefine words in ways that please ones believes but racism has nothing to do with power and every thiing to do with hate. The notion that minorities cannot be racist is in and of itself racist.