Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

Actually a lot more is known than is being reported by US media.

Several news organizations have verified that the attacks (there were three separate attacks) came from the air. And drones seem to be the most likely weapon.

This is not “fog of war”. the IDF knew about the convoy, approved the routes, and were updated regularly.

‘Israel is doing an “investigation”. The perpetrators are investigating themselves.

 

If Israel can freighter aid workers out of Gaza, they can continue their policy of forced starvation, free from any concerns that third parties will see what is going on in Gaza. Right now, Israel effectively controls the narrative of their ethnic cl ensign operation.

Of course, if you want to argue that this might not be in Israel’s interest.

Others would argue that avenging a terrorist attack that killed 1100 people does not justify killings 33000 people and a military invasion, mass destruction, and forced starvation.

 

What compensation has Hamas provided? Which Hamas members have been arrested and put on trial?

 

How?

 

Is that hello in Apache?

 

Are you suggesting that Israel used the situation in Gaza as bait, to lure in unsuspecting aid workers so as to murder them for fun? In whose heart does such evil dwell, Israel's or yours?

 

Why does it matter?

 

Oh, wow! Are you backtracking? Are you admitting the information you posted was false and Israel did not take responsibility for the killing of the workers?

BTW, I never said Hamas took responsibility so directing those questions at me is nonsensical and stupid.

 

In the realm of the imaginary, anything is possible.

 

Israel never takes responsibility. All they do is acknowledge their involvement. Soldiers are sentenced to jail only for embarrassing the state of Israel - not for criminal actions against the Palestinians.

 

I already said what their motives are. ‘Just for fun”..you made that up.

 

No backtracking. Israel has admitted a mistake in the fog of war created by Hamas. Hamas is to blame for the deaths as they are for all deaths in the Gaza Strip. How much compensation will Hamas be providing?

 

I believe it's most closely related to the Kiowa Indians who although sometimes lived near the Apache, spoke a different language. Aho is the usual spelling but Kiowa like most Native American languages were not written. It means a number of things, but outsiders will hear it most often in Pow Wows because it is the word for "thank you".

 

It appears as though your dodge is because the surrounding region is cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims and those critical of religion/government. Goyim is not defined as sub human and is not a crime in Israel. Apostacy, on the other hand is a crime in the surrounding region. That is why you refuse to answer my question even though I answered yours.

 

That's backtracking. First you said they were "taking responsibility". Now you say they're only admitting a mistake.

More backtracking! Complete reversal! This is the opposite of taking responsibility.

Once again, you're asking nonsensical questions completely irrelevant to anything I wrote.

 

No backtracking. Hamas is responsible for all deaths in the Gaza strip. Israel admits the unintentional killing of the civilians in the Gaza war zone caused by Hamas.

I am not interested in your word games.

 

Yes, it was a complete and utter accident and these things happen in war, you seek to find villainy because of your prejudice, you desperately seek some sort of equivalency between Israel and Hamas but there is none, the Israelis are always the good guys in this conflict.

 

These were precision bombs, quite neatly targeting and destroying the intended vehicles. The aid organization also allegedly took precautions, coordinating their movements with Israel. This doesn't look like fog of war stuff. It would be nice if we could have an independent investigation into exactly what chain of events led to this preventable accident or murder. At worst, Israel may be trying to make it harder to get aid to starving civilians. At best, they are failing to reign in officers who recklessly kill everything that moves or themselves want to kill aid workers.

 

It would be a mistake to assume either way. It's just that the known facts don't look good. This was a group of aid workers coordinating their movements with the IDF who were hit by consecutive precision bombs. The simplest explanation is that Israel doesn't want aid to reach civilians. The next most likely explanation is they're protecting their soldiers who didn't want aid to reach civilians. But there are less likely possibilities down the line that are less damning.

 

Did Israel deny that the aid group coordinated their movements with the IDF? Then multiple cars hit separately by consecutive precision bombs... We ought not jump to conclusions, but the initial facts do look like villainy by somebody. It seems more like some people really, really want to assume the best with Israel and ignore the facts.

It's not about equivalency. It's about sharing responsibility because this is a group we support and are allied with. We are complicit with their crimes, not Hamas' crimes. And given Israel states they have killed thousands of terrorists, it seems Hamas has already been paying for theirs.

 

Likely it is typical liberal goof off taking to much time to do something. This put them on the road in the middle off the night during a different shift of IDF people watching out. Learn that give a warning when leaving not 10 hours before. UN should hire real workers not people that can't get real jobs because they take all day to do something.

 

They gave warning but at least 10 hours before and the IDF crew then was a different bunch.

 

I think this highlights that it's possible this wasn't deliberate. Though this more favorable explanation would still fall under recklessly killing anything that moves. It's especially reckless when they know that aid workers operate vehicles in the area.

 

I have said many times, Israel needs to be careful, starving millions of people will not look good for them, in fact, the pictures of starving Palestinians would look a lot like the pictures of Jews during Hitlers time, they need to do better

 

Be realistic. Israel could be conducting military operations with the greatest of care and they would still be excoriated for what they did do.