So you think Trump is going to win the election, eh? Not so fast.....

Do you agree with the OPs assessment that:

"New Yorkers HATE Trump. Every voting district in Manhattan went for Joe Biden in the last election.
Gonna be fun!"?

Do you think Joe Biden would get a fair trial in one of the Texas counties that voted 90% Trump in 2020?

If you were on trial, and all your jurors had a 'F*ck Noone' bumper sticker, would they be 'your peers'?

 

Well, I will concede that he has on occasion told the truth, like that time he said he'd date his teenage daughter if he could. Sadly though his lies are frequent and whoppers and repeated over and over. The old adage applies, if a lie is repeated enough people will believe it to be true.

 

You nailed him. He is a loser by definition. He is one giant charade. The MAGA view of him is just the opposite. Inverted reality. Integrity does not matter to them

 

His untruths have been documented . Fact checked. But that does not matter to his followers. IF they wanted to, they could do some fact checking themselves.....but they rely on Trump , social media and Faux outlets to inform them.

 

I believe that New York'ers dislike tRaitor tRump ... as ALL Americans that love OUR Constitution AbsaByGodLutely should.

I don't find anything "FUN" about tRaitor tRump's problems, or tRaitor tRump.<-period

I would caution "Joe Biden" not to commit crimes in America ... ANYWHERE.

Yes, they would be my peers. The more important question is what did "I" do that created that emotion in them. AND, the even MORE important question is why the F*ck am I on trial in the first place.

The rights paradigm is tRaitor tRump is a victim. EVEN though it's tRaitor tRump that has victimized the people of America that he wants to vote for him. Which has, now, caught up with him. The timing is inconvenient but that's no one's fault by tRaitor tRump's.

 

Biden's untruths have been documented . Fact checked. But that does not matter to his followers. IF they wanted to, they could do some fact checking themselves.....but they rely on Biden social media and MSNBC outlets to inform them.

 

Trump could be swapped for Biden and Truth So Called and Fox could be swapped for "Biden social media and MSNBC. The question is who lies more and what affect do those lies have on The United States not what-about the other guy.

Comparing the two, and who has done a better, less divisive job for AmeriCAN's is the point. And when asked that way, President Biden WINS every time!

 

Only one of the six in the garage had classified markings

 

"Lawyers for President Joe Biden have discovered additional documents with classified markings in a storage space in the garage of his Wilmington, Del., residence, the special counsel to the president announced Thursday."
Additional documents marked classified found in Biden's Wilmington garage - POLITICO

 

Six pages, not six documents
Biden:. On Saturday, Sauber said that a total of six pages of classified documents were found earlier in the week during a search at Biden’s home and were handed over to Justice Department officials.

TRUMP: Roughly 300 documents with classification markings — including some at the top secret level — have been recovered from Trump since he left office in January 2021. FBI agents took about 33 boxes and containers of 11,000 documents from Mar-a-Lago

https://apnews.com/article/biden-cl...side-by-side-fb2c4ebccdbdbb9039c1c5e227b1da53

 

And most of the so called documented lies vary from disagreements with leftist about one thing or the other in many cases where in there is no clear cut answer or where Trump disagreed with standard leftist cant.

 

Insisting that there is no difference in the way classified documents were handled by tRaitor tRump and President Biden is ridiculous. Claiming they are equally guilty when it’s well known that the crime tRaitor tRump is accused of was NOT committed by President Biden.


TRaitor tRump withheld classified documents even after being asked for them by NARA. Where as President Biden contacted NARA, to properly take custody of and oversee their recovery.

IF tRaitor tRump would have surrendered ALL classified material to NARA when asked no one, outside the government and tRaitor tRump’s staff would have even known he ever had them. The FBI wouldn’t have been involved and tRaitor tRump wouldn’t have been charged.

The only reason this is an issue is tRaitor tRump tried to fraudulently retain documents he had no business having.

That word “fraud” follows tRaitor tRump around like the stench of his diapers. And yet his supporters insist it is tRaitor tRump that’s victimized and not the American people.

 

Yet, there is no doubt that tRaitor tRump kept documents he had not right to, LONG after he was, REPEATEDLY, asked for them.

 

Wrong on both counts.

 

Biden had no right to any of them as a senator. He was violating the law by not properly protecting them. You can claim differences until the cows come home, but he is just as guilty as Trump. He violated the law and the democrats just write it off as not being significant.

Then we have Hilary with her unprotected, uncertified server receiving, transmitting and storing classified information with at least one above Top Secret.

Out of all that, only Trump is being prosecuted.

 

@Noone
Biden withheld classified documents even after being asked for them by NARA. They were alerted by the Biden in May (not the November lie we were told) about the Penn Biden documents but were NEVER told about the other locations at that time... that is obstruction right there... Biden willingly and knowingly knew he had them and DID NOT OFFER THOSE TO NARA when Penn Biden was going on...

 

Au Contraire

You (me - noone)
Did trump retain documents he wasn''t supposed to have
Copilot
Yes, there have been reports that former President Donald Trump retained classified documents that he was not supposed to have12345. Here are some key points from the news:

• Trump is facing dozens of felony charges accusing him of illegally retaining classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, after leaving the White House and hiding them from government investigators5.
• The charges include retaining classified information, obstructing justice, and making false statements, among other crimes5.
• Federal prosecutors have evidence that Trump was put on notice that he could not retain any classified documents after he was subpoenaed for their return last year4.
• Trump has pleaded not guilty to the 40-count indictment for retaining classified documents2.
• The indictment accuses Trump of breaking seven laws, including 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information and single counts of false statements and representations, conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly concealing a document, concealing a document in a federal investigation and a scheme to conceal3.
• Trump’s lawyers revealed that the former president held classified material at several of his estates beyond Mar-a-Lago1.

You (me - noone)
did trump retain documents long after they were asked for by NARA
Copilot
Yes, former President Donald Trump did retain documents long after they were requested by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Here’s a timeline of events:

• January 18, 2021: Boxes containing documents were moved from the White House to Mar-a-Lago1.
• May 6, 2021: The National Archives made a request for missing presidential records1. They continued to make requests until approximately late December 2021 when they were informed twelve boxes were found and ready for retrieval at Mar-a-Lago1.
• January 18, 2022: NARA received 15 boxes of records from Trump that had been taken to Mar-a-Lago1. These included highly classified documents intermingled with other records1.
• August 8, 2022: The FBI executed a search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property1. A property receipt of the items taken from Mar-a-Lago listed 11 sets of classified records1.

This timeline suggests that Trump retained documents for a significant period after they were requested by NARA12. The Justice Department issued a subpoena in May and retrieved more documents from Trump in June2. It later sought a search warrant, which FBI agents carried out on Aug. 8, retrieving 25 more boxes of documents, some of which carried the highest levels of classification2.

 

November? Lol, as if you can even go one day without making a Trump thread. More like, CYA TOMORROW.
Also I am not getting the impression that people are cocky about Trump winning. Even the right wing news networks are not cocky about it. Where did you get the inspiration for this thread? Did you think that possibly some righties were feeling optimistic about the election so you wanted to make sure you ruined that good feeling? Is this what lefties do all day? Think of ways to make people they don't like feel crappy? Give yourself a round of applause! WELL DONE! Such a role model! That's definitely the way to bring UNITY! Good job!

 

Not, so!

You (me - noone)
Did President Biden withold documents from NARA
Copilot
No, President Biden did not withhold documents from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). The claim that President Biden withheld 1,850 boxes of classified documents from his time as vice president is false1. The boxes of files referenced in that figure are actually Biden’s Senate papers, which are housed at the University of Delaware1. The federal agency told The Associated Press the files of Congress members are considered their personal property and are not subject to the same restrictions as presidential records, which are considered government property1. While the FBI has searched the Delaware university records as part of a larger search for classified documents, there is no evidence they were withheld from authorities in any way1.

 

Who had classified documents longer, Trump or Biden?

Ready...............GO!!!!

 

Who kept them after being asked for them?

Ready .............. GO!!!!!!!!

 

The very important factor is who held the documents the longest, not when they were ordered to be returned. While those document were being held, the storage did not meet security requirements and were more likely to be compromised. This is especially true in the case of Biden. They were stored in a number of non-secure locations. Trumps were also in non-secure locations. However, Trump's Secret Service provided some protection against some foreign agent getting access to them.

 

The provenance of the laptop doesn't prove the election was rigged, whether someone got it wrong about it's provenance, or not.

There is no evidence the election was rigged.

There is no evidence Joe took any bribes.

Feel free to prove otherwise.

No evidence.

Feel free to prove otherwise.

 

On the whole, you are right, but there is an exception.

Only one.

It's the demagogue. It's like a small town which can't deal with a fire breathing dragon. Can we litigate, deal with a dragon in law? Can we sue the dragon? Can we beat the dragon with our 'system' of rights, constitutions, charters, etc?

No, a town is not will suited to deal with a dragon. Because a dragon doesn't play by the rules.

It's a f*cking dragon.

Similarly, a nation of laws, constitution, democracy, high mindedness, etc., isn't well suited to deal with a powerful demagogue, who knows how to game the system. Hitler knew this. The German people didn't.

hence my philosophy, which is:

By whatever legal means necessary, stop this demagogue.

He doesn't play by society's rules, your high minded laws, etc. He is not acting in good faith, he is not an honorable man.

Capiche?

And, if by some remote chance, the way we do it isn't fair, I do hope it's fair, but if it isn't, I'm not losing any sleep over it, just as long as he is stopped, permanently, utterly, completely, crushed, stomped, squashed, etc., etc., etc.

For the good of all, for the security of the nation.

 

when I hear democrats complaining about Trump and rules, it reminds me of this