Let's intellectually crush the Liberal Agenda

And it is only the beginning Continue attacking to the working classes and you will have much more class warfare, and less social peace.

And what are the policies taken until now, policies that potentiate the class warfare and diminishes the social peace.

 

How many times do you need to be shown evidence that hoarding money kills jobs. Over and Over and Over people have given you evidence that when a few people have all of the money, it kills jobs. You keep saying, "show the evidence." You refuse to belive the evidence is the problem. 10,000 people with $100,000 a year can easily spend $1 billion in a year. For one person to spend $1 billion in a year, he would have to spend $1902.59 every minute of every hour of every day for an entire year. That's not efficent economics to have so much money siting in one place.

 

ROTFLMAO
Good luck with that, sport. Your chances of success are slim and none.

I doubt that right-wingers, who consider using your brain to be an elitist activity, and lap up the 'God told me to do it' bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of the ********** crowd have the intellectual capacity to find their way out of a paper bag, much less engage in an intellectual discussion.

Face it. Reactionaries are bankrupt when it comes to ideas that actually work in the real world.
When you stop looking backward in anger and paranoia, and start looking forward with a bit of courage and sense of human decency, then you'll have a chance to contribute positively to the world.

Meanwhile, we'll continue to hear the same tired, selfish, intolerant, delusional thuggery that passes for political theory among the right.

 

Sorry, but the Constitution doesn't require us to "look forward with courage & human decency". All we want is for Democrats to leave us alone and stop using national action against us to forcibly compel us to adopt a lifestyle we do not wish to embrace.

Stop attacking us with the EPA, the IRS, the NLRB, Justice Dept, etc.

Stop trying to limit the civil rights you feel are "not as important".

Stop trying to turn wealth creation and profit into dirty 4 letter words.

Stop trying to drive up the cost of labor and cost of doing business and cost of meeting outrageous and unnecessary regulations that are in place only to ensure that some bureaucrat doesn't lose his job.

and TELL OBAMA TO STOP ATTACKING RICH PPL AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS NATION RHETORICALLY!

 

still waiting for the intellctual bit, whens that going to come?

 

What intellectuality is necessary?

Progressivism flies in the face of all common sense and intuition to anyone who has lived outside of it's wicked embrace. It doesn't take great intellect to smell a pile of dog (*)(*)(*)(*) from 10 feet away does it?

 

I disagree, we're not the country our Founders established today. IMO, a division between the conservatives and the liberals would leave conservative america much closer to our founding principles.

Unfortunately, the division would leave us vunerable to our enemies. I do not want a divided america, yet what made america great is dying. I would venture to say that a majority of those who claim to be conservative, would side with the liberals if conservative america eliminated SS/medicare and unemployment benefits.

 

The left has not figured out that the Government is broke, broke enough that it has
to borrow. This means that our own FED is on welfare, as well as millions of Americans.

And the people who can create wealth to get us all out of this dilemma, are being hated
and scorned. Go figure.

You can't have a welfair state, While the state is on welfair. LOL


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An economy where most labor is provided by robots would be one very different from today. Honestly, the only way to even make such an economy work would be to have governments basically charge companies for running robots and distributing the money to real individuals. Note; FDR was living in a time where robots weren't even a realistic concept.

That said, it's probably easier to replace management with computers than factory workers with robots. You'll never see management replaced with computers, however, because management will never want to threaten their own jobs.

Labor supply issues are usually not responsible for depressed wages. That's almost always demand-driven. Note; if everyone is earning higher wages, more money will be spent and the economy will grow, so businesses will be able to afford higher wages... demand-side economics works better than supply-side voodoo.

Conservatives have been proposing and protecting agricultural subsidies as much or more than liberals have. There's nothing that Republicans love more than a good tax cut to "small farmers" who rake in millions. But you probably don't see tax credits and deductions as government handouts, do you?

It works well enough for China. The only way free trade works is when you tie it to labor standards and force your trading partners to have equal or higher labor and wage standards. In general this also means harmonizing agricultural standards too... In other words, you can follow the Chinese approach of domestic protectionism and aggressive export negotiations (which only works because there are larger foreign markets willing to irrationally lower trade barriers), or you can follow the EU model of free trade and intrusive labor and wage standard treaties. The American method of making free trade agreements with countries that have no labor standards to speak of is a total disaster.

Home ownership has been a conservative goal, for the most part, not a liberal one. Adequate housing is basically a requirement for a functional economy--people cannot get meaningful jobs or upward mobility without a roof over their head in this country. These days, your chances of getting a successful interview are near zero if you haven't had a proper shower in three days and your clothes haven't been washed in a month. Hell, your chances of even getting the interview are rather low if you have no phone number or address.

Note; this applies to the US in the present. Other countries operate differently, and there are more opportunities for upward mobility (paradoxically) in some of those countries. Microcredit successes are an example of that, where people really can and do improve their standard of living despite starting at the absolute bottom. In the US, that is really not possible except maybe by breaking the law.

This is an insane fear. There's no law preventing people from wrecking their health in countries with nationalized health care. That's already assumed as part of the risk when they're structuring costs. They think they need 3 or 4 percent of income because they acknowledge that some portion of the population will intentionally choose to wreck their health. Otherwise they would set the amount lower and charge extra to the folks that actually do risky things.

The idea that the government will start assessing fees for risky activities under a national health care plan is not realistic.

What? He was talking about Social Security, which he got enacted, and is one of the most beloved federal programs, perhaps second only to Medicare.

Get a life, or you won't get a job. Education is a requirement in the modern economy, not an option. Getting a college degree will not make you less capable.

That's allowed only because children don't have a right to a good education. If that was actually an item on a bill of rights, parents would be able to challenge teachers and administrators in court. This is because the teachers and administrators would be violating their child's civil rights by enriching themselves at the expense of their child's education. But because we have no such right, we have no subsequent legal protections, and therefore no legal recourse except in cases of gross mismanagement or gross inequities. Malfeasance is harder to demonstrate than substandard education.

In other words, the "liberal agenda" you're arguing against would have prevented the abuses you cite.

 

well you did say you wanted to intellectually crush Liberals. Just wondering when you are going to bring the intellectual crushing on.

 

You fell for the OP?

Shame on you.

 

Of course it doesn't, sport.
That's why the preamble prattles on mindlessly about forming a more perfect union for ourselves and our posterity.
According to the idiot right, what we really need is another civil war and to break up the union so that the ignorant, selfish, intolerant right-wingers don't have to share with anyone.
Right-wing ideology is a fatal proposition for any country that is fool enough to follow it.

 

Well that's America, so better get used to it because we're still half the country and not going anywhere.

 

Nice of you to admit that you got us on here under false pretences.

People took your challenge seriously and spent time to give you carefully considered answers and arguments. Your response has been lazy and crude invective. There hasn't been evidence of a brain cell near anything you have posted.

I suppose it was naieve of us to suppose that anything "intellectual" let alone "crushing" would emerge.

Instead we have the peurile drivel that this board is becoming famous for.

Your grammatically challenged and abusive post above proves the point.

"Intellectuality"? What sort of a turd of a word is that?

 

Well at least, according to you, you have been favoured with a sense of smell.

 

Well at least we could say that he has been "economic with the intellectuality"!

(Oh Awryly that joke will be so over their heads!)

Your "dog sniffs bum" is much more apposite.

 

Liberalism today is no more than tyranny.

 

So There!

Half? Don't think so Einstein...
Only about one third of the population even bothers to vote anymore. The two thirds who don't, are either not interested, or so disgusted with US partisan BS that they simply have given up.

Of that one third...its split about half and half.
BUT, with the T-Baggers now being about six percent of the Republican vote, those two thirds may just get interested again. And I really doubt most of them are even remotely Republicans...Republicans tend to take politics much more serious than the average independent or non-voter...

But you wanted to intellectually crush the Liberal Agenda, and all I've seen is the same pedantic fear-mongering that you people always engage in.

Socialism this...and Communist that...

So I have 2 questions:

1. Most of you wouldn't know a social-democratic nation if it jumped down your collective throats. Wanna know how I know this?
BECAUSE YOU ALREADY LIVE IN ONE!!!

2. Please be careful with the usage of words that have more than 2 syllables. And for Gawd's sake...quit making up words!
"Intellectuality"

LOL...T-Baggers...the intellectual sludge of US politics...

 

Are you on the level?

 

Maybe I'm being a little unfair, but it is my political bias.

 

Let's intellectually crush the Liberal Agenda

Well, I haven't seen much in terms of intelligent, never mind intellectual "crushing" yet.

Is the ideological rightwing really so deprived that they can't put forward a decent argument? lols

 

Do your own thing man. People don't have to follow down behind YOU, in order to make good decisions themselves. You have a belief, idea and a notion... got it. So be it.

 

Too bad most of the intellectuals in this country are voting democrat.