Man Dies From Toothache, Couldn't Afford Meds

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  1. Inphormer

    Inphormer Banned

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    I just go from thread to thread dropping FACTS and then watch the hysterical reactions. Here's something else for them to chew on.

     
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    Most of the Higher Development comes from the amount of spending your Government does. It doesn't have anything to do with the amount of wealth from the private sector.

    As for poverty, that tells you nothing about the overall poverty in both countries. Being poverty stricken in America is like being middle class in Australia. Poverty has basically lost it's meaning in the US.
     
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    I just keep dropping FACTS on them.

    They don't know how to react. You would think they would stop but they just keep on coming.

    I've embarrassed them soooo many times.
     
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    Who says that it was? It just means that your economy produces practically nothing. Which is pretty sad because our country produces less than yours does.
     
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    No one said that GDP was a factor? Reading is fundamental.
     
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    The BBC is just about as much peer reviewed as Investor's Business Daily. Probably less so because it's a government Public Sector Broadcasting news sources.
     
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    Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    That's prolly best since you don't have any concept of the situation.
     
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    And what else would I be talking about?


    It's due to both.


    I asked you for proof? I asked when was the last time a life saving drug was produced in Australia and you said you didn't know. That's all the proof anyone needs. It only show that there is no innovation.

    There are barely any drugs made in Australia. There are barely any pharmaceutical companies at all. Majority of the major companies are located in the United States. Half of the largest pharmaceutical companies are located in the US. The rest are located in Great Britain, France and Germany.
     
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    Unfortunately for some, REALITY inconveniently debunks partisan hackery.

     
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    News papers are not health care studies. And of course a newspaper out of England would report that England has the 'most efficient' health care system. Nothing weird about that.

    Now that we've gotten that ignorance out the way, no the US does not US consistently underperformed in most areas.

    http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba596
     
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    I noticed you removed the following when you quoted me...

    I wonder why? I guess if you can't debunk the FACTS just delete them. This is the usual Republican strategy
     
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    Mod edit let's debate in a friendly manner I don't remove quotes. The website does it automatically. I only quote what other people say, not what people quote. But someone of your intellectual level doesn't even pick up on that.

    As for his analysis being from the International Journal of Epidemiology. I don't see quotes from the journal or the link to the journal in question. If his analysis is from the journal then post the journal. As far as I'm concerned, all you did was just post a BBC article which says "Life expectancy on the rise 'despite obesity epidemic." Which doesn't related to anything Shiva posted in the slightest.

    As usual, who fall short from the mark.
     
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    The majority of the drugs consumed in the United States are manufactured elsewhere... FACT.

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    They just let them die sitting in the hospital

    Montreal Woman Dies after a Six Hour Wait in ER - Problem is Canada Wide
    http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...-a-six-hour-wait-in-er-problem-is-canada-wide
     
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    Every once in a while there is a news story about someone dying because of the evil insurance companies. It becomes a cause celebre for wacky liberals, then its investigated a little further and it turns out there was a lot more to the issue than merely the greed of insurance companies. Most of the time it's an issue over experimental treatment. Which means it's a non issue.

    In this case, the guy actually saw a doctor, got prescriptions, and considering the cheapness of anti-biotics, chose the more expensive pain killer. Sorry, but this is the story of one guy's bad decision, not an indictment of medical care in the US.
     
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    Are you trying to look for anything remotely credible or are you just trying to post anything to try to prove me wrong?

    Exactly what evidence does Daniel Hines have to support his claim that the drugs Americans are using aren't American made? He doesn't even list the types of drugs or where they are developed.

    And the notion that Americans aren't using America drugs is laughable. 6 of the 12 largest pharmaceutical companies in the world are American. 8 or the 12 pharmaceutical companies with the largest revenue are again American.

    Also, you can't just post something on here and call it fact. You have to back it up with some sort of evidence.
     
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    As per your request.


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    The United States healthcare system is NOT more efficient and it does NOT have better overall outcomes. What it is, is the most expensive system in the world with a subpar life expectancy... FACT.
     
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    Do the Euro's have Mexican drug gangs invading their territory shooting people and driving down the life expectancy numbers for America?
     
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    You really shouldn't insult Peabody.
     
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    Life expectancy is not a good measure of the efficacy of the health care system.
     
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    Why didn't he just walk in speaking Spanish...he would have been given everything for free.
     
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    Like clockwork the right wing hate speech shows up.
     
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    Right, it's hate speech to state the obvious. Are you trying to imply that Illegal aliens are not given care for free when they show up unable to pay?

    It's only Hate Speech when it's not true.


    Why are you not angry that our system lets an American die, while cateering to non citizens for free? Theres the real headscratcher, you are so for this kind of treatment, that if someone points it out...you are quick to defend it and brand "hate speech"..lol.
     
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