On this and other sites I have often told the liberal apologists for Islam to look at history. The below link details that history over the last 1500 years. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/History_of_Jihad_Against_the_Serbs,_Croats_and_Albanians
Yes, like all religions (except perhaps, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism), Islam has had it's dark periods. Of course, they haven't yet caught up with Christianity when it comes to bloodshed and torture but they sure seem to be trying.
Secondly, you're convienently leaving out the British interloping that started this whole mess in 1917.
I'm all for freedom of religion and free speech. I just wanted to drop in and say the following: Muhammad was a known illiterate child rapist that was killed by his own wife. And, finally: "Allah lalalalalalalalalalalal!"
Incorrect, this is not agreed upon. He did take a captured woman to add to his collection of wives however it was another jewish woman who had also been captured into slavery who poisoned his lamb. But I heard it took two or three years before he died, so whos to say. Him being unable to read or write is one thing which made his words appear so majestic.
If you want to the history of Islamic Jihad you must go back to the begining of time and understand that many many other people claim a religion other than Islam but act as muslims are commanded. Especially in matters of war. No nation acts as christians in war. The United States and its muslim citizens are to rise up and fight against the muslim infedels. So in a way the united states invasion of iraq was an islamic jihad lead by a christian nation. In other words they abondanded thier religion of tunring the other cheak and letting the people decide and conquer. They said (*)(*)(*)(*) this were gonna do it like muhammad and claim our mission is for freedom and for God. I believe we all act more muslim, that what has been defined for us as christianity. Mind you there were christian groups of old that fit me better but there is no following. One day I will perfect the definition of my christian faith for I do not fight with bombs and swords the death I bring my enemy is through words and a bullet to the head. They wont even feel thier downfall.
Wrong. The Prophet Muhammad PBUH was not a pedophile. This article helps explain it. - http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm The death of the prophe PBUH is also questionable, again another article to help explain it. - http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/d...t_an_honorable_death_for_our_beloved_prophet_ The others who ate the food died quickly. The pioson took years to kill him. His final prayer: There is a slave among the slaves of Allah (The One God) to whom God has offered the choice between this world and that which is with Him, and the slave has chosen that which is with God. Hmmm.... The only thing you have right is he was illiterate. Good job. Salam.
I think I read this wrong... But anyway, there was nothing Islamic about the War on "Terror" in Iraq. Either I misunderstood the post or you are making no sense. Feel free to clear it up if it's either of those. There is a Christian version of holy war, you know Salam.
Christianity hasn't killed an estimated 270 million people since its inception. Here's where you go: "B...bu....but the Crusades!"
According to the Hadith, Aisha was 6 years old and he had sex with her for the first time when she was 9, which was young even for those days. So is the Hadith, the source second only to the Qur'an in terms of importance, wrong? Or are you just employing some taqiyya to us dumb infidels? http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha%27s_Age_of_Consummation
You're actually right, since it wouldn't be Islamic to wage war against terrorists and terrorism. It would be Islamic to support it, and Allah willing, participate it in. No, there really isn't. Sure, you could post a few Old Testament scriptures that are historical accounts of battles that took place, and twist the logic around to try and create a moral equivalence, but people could just point out that these were never open ended commandments to wage war against unbelievers for all time, and can finish off your attempt by explaining how Jesus' message effectively replaced the Old Testament way. The best you could hope for is to point out a few Christian troublemakers in the recent past, or the Crusades, Inquisition, etc. None of it would be able to balance the fact that Muslims have waged jihad warfare since the very beginning, and the only time they were not waging warfare against unbelievers is when they were defeated and needed time to regain their strength. This is a pattern that continues to this day.
Haha another person who thinks Taqiyah means lying in general.... Anyway. He married many women, and only one was as young as Aisha. Pedophiles aren't interested in older women/men. If the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was truly a pedophile, he would of and could of married many young girls. But he didn't. (If you bothered to read the article I posted I wouldn't of needed to repeat this). Prophet Muhammad PBUH marriage and relationship with Aisha is much to complicated for an ignorant person such as yourself to fully understand, to simply put it. If you can't comprehend what Taqiyah is, I find it hard to think you can even consider anything involving their relationship past claiming he is a "pedophile."
No. The Islamic thing would not be waging a war on other civilians (Muslims in this case). The War in Iraq has killed far more civilians than it has Al Qaeda and Taliban members combined. Hell, it's killed more innocent people than the Taliban and Al Qaida have killed combined. Lol So basically what your saying is anything of the past I bring up from Christianity is irrelevant but anything certain groups of troublemakers (as you put it) do in the name of Islam represents all Muslims and the entire religion. That seems like fair logic, wouldn't you say? Again, there is no thousand years of Jihad. This has no proof, and don't even try using "Stealth Jihad". Lol. If you wan't to be taken seriously I suggest staying off JihadWatch and Religion of Peace when trying to make a real point. The bias on those 2 sites in particular is a joke, and it's funny when people try to use them to insult Islam If the Crusades weren't about Holy War, then please enlighten me. What were they about?
Ummm, being a pedophile is defined as attraction to prepubescent children. It is not dependent on whether or not the person also finds older people attractive, as well. What kind of BS claim is this? Maybe you can back this up with something other than your opinion? What is "complicated" about a 54 year old man marrying a 6 year old? Bedding her at age 9? That's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) sick, if you ask me and most of the civilized world. Pedophilia is not something we tolerate, unlike in the Muslim world, where it's not uncommon for there to be child brides. Go ahead, though. Go on record to explain how this "complicated" arrangement is a good thing, and not the sick, perverted raping of a child. We have lots of liberals here who need to understand how twisted the thinking of Muslims is, even "moderate" ones like yourself. That is what he is. He was also a vicious blood thirsty warlord. With Muslims considering this guy to be "perfect", you really can't blame us for not trusting you in our society.
And most of those civilians were killed by other Muslims. Here you are, a "moderate" Muslim living in a civilized country in modern times, defending pedophilia. That speaks volumes. I don't go to RoP too often, but Jihadwatch usually posts videos and quotes of Muslims making comments about their religion. Somehow when Jihadwatch reports on them, suddenly it's "biased". And there is a lot of proof about Islam's history of conquest. From the Middle East, to North Africa, to Europe, to Southern Asia, and elsewhere. Within 150 years of Muhammad's death, Islam conquered these areas. It wasn't done peacefully, I can assure you. They were about taking back land that was stolen from Christians. 2/3 of Christendom was taken by Muslims after Muhammad's death. Christians simply retaliated and took back their land. The way Muslims and apologists tell the story, though, is that Muslims were just minding their own business, and the evil Christians came storming through and killing everybody. In other words, they lie about what happened.
Well okay. But I would also include the Dark Ages, The Spanish Inquisition, hell even the KKK's justification for violence was based solely on their interpretation of The Mark of Cain and other bullsh1t. In any case, the residual of it seemed to end 40 years ago or so, with only a few scattered incidents of people killing or torturing in the name of Christ, Christianity etc... anymore. Whereas those who have taken Islam in that dark direction, seem to be just hitting their stride.
Aisha hit puberty when she turned 9 (when they actually got married). When girls hit puberty they were no longer children. Prophet Muhammad PBUH saw 2 dreams about her, and when prophets (notice the plural) have dreams they are from God. Therefore, the marriage was Divine to simply put it. Pretty much in the same way Maryum (Mary) PBUH gave birth to Isa (Jesus) PBUH. It was Allah (God's) will. Also, girls got married at young ages in this time. In England it was okay to marry a 12 year old girl (and sometimes younger). The time is much different than it now. There are reasons nobody spoke out against their relationship. Even the prophet's enemies didn't inuslt him for this. You are thinking back thousand years ago and comparing it to today which I why I said you just don't understand. We only see Westerners today who don't understand the details of the relationship insulting Muhammad PBUH for his marraige with Aisha. (If you call Muhammad PBUH a pedophile for marrying a 9 year old then would that also make G-d one aswell (Mary PBUH was only 14 when she gave birth to Jesus PBUH). Astugfirullah.) I realize I'm wasting my time here and this post won't even be read (however you will respond with the same thing over and over)... But atleast I tried Salam.
Killed by other Muslims? During the war in Iraq and Afghanistan? Is that what FOX has been reporting lol.... Please, Google it Defending pedophilia? Huh? I'm talking about how to you Christianity's past is irrelevant when brought up because it was only a "few troublemakers" but when Al Qaida blows themselves up it's representative of the entire religion of Islam and all Muslims.... Right, and the European Christians conquered other lands with hugs and kisses, right? Converting people with flowers and other gifts.... Again, this mentality of "it doen't matter what we did, all that's important is you did it so it's wrong". Does it get anymore ignorant than that? Pope Urban II part of his speech: "God himself will lead them, for they will be doing His work. There will be absolution and remission of sins for all who die in the service of Christ. Here they are poor and miserable sinners; there they will be rich and happy. Let none hesitate; they must march next summer. God wills it!" Certainly sounds like holy war to me. He even throws in the word "infidel" a few times. The Crusades weren't just against Muslims. Muslims and Jews in Jerusalem under Christian rule had no rights and were massacred or kicked out of Jerusalem, until of course the Muslim Salah ad-Din recaptured Jerusalem. You're knowledge on the Crusades is questionable.... Salam.