American family dies

Have you heard about China?

The stunning growth of Christianity in China

 

Yes islamists ARE racist and ignorant. Surprised you noticed.

 

And irrational fear.

Don't forget irrational fear.

 

no.

what you are demonstrating is irrational paranoia.

must be terrible to be so scared.

you have a much greater risk of being killed by one of your fellow americans who are not muslim, than you do of being killed by any muslim.

 

it may be a son, but often it is a father as well.

this guy probably went postal over his belief there had been an attack on his daughter. muslims are human beings first, so there is the likelihood that the mentally unstable among muslim communities can behave in the same way as the mentally unstable in other communities. As both the US and Arabic cultures have a "culture of honour" there is possibly an incrreased risk of this kind of thing in both.

I have never seen you post against genuine antisemitism on this forum. If you don't look at the rest of the forum then you aren't in a position to comment on what I do/don't post on.

the real issue is culture. In south Asia, (apart from Pakistan and Afghanistan where extreme versions of Islam are practised) women have been better off under Islam for centuries. if you look at Phoolan Devi's book "bandit queen" she mentioned the different attitudes of muslim communities. they were also outside the caste system - which is another layer of opppression that falls heavily of women.

I am not at liberty to disclose personal information about the women concerned. the simple fact is that while a woman may have inheritance, once she marries she becomes virtually a slave to her new family and the dowry in traditional indian families is something given to the husband's families.

did you not see the links re women being murdered because their dowries were insufficient?

you have your answer right there

India is not even a place I particularly like to travel as a woman (many muslim countries are much easier) and women in India (hindu, muslim, sikh, christian and others) experiences levels of discrimination and risk that western women cannot imagine.

Dowry is a bigger issue for hindu families, although the hindu practice has been adopted by many muslim families in india, and in my experience christian families also pay the husband's families.


I'd still hate to be a Hindu woman more than a muslim woman:

http://twocircles.net/2007sep19/study_domestic_violence_more_common_among_hindu_families.html

lucky her.

most women don't bother:

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/onefortheroad/entry/rape-and-the-ugly-indian

you didn't read the article I posted.

ignorance is excusable unless you start pretending that you are not.

 

I really don't believe it. Here we see these tough testosterone charged American "men" armed to the teeth being so fearful, of what, who?

This isn't freedom, it's bloody paranoia.

 

An Iranian immigrant dressed as Santa Claus.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/29/us-texas-bodies-vigil-idUSTRE7BS05E20111229

 

If you honestly believe Sharia law can take a stranglehold of American society, you have no faith in the American people and your own democratic process.

Immigrate now. They tell me Mexico is nice this time of the year.

 

Sooooo true!!

 

Australian leftists want Americans to be just like them. Until that happens Australians will hurl invective on Americans without end. What are you Aussies really accomplishing. Catharsis?

 

What's an "Australian leftist"?

Gotta a link for that?

 

you can be whatever you like.

just keep your paranoia and violence at home.

 

Looking at the map, it's anyone from W.A.

 

not true.

we may be left on the map, but we have a higher percentage of liberal seats, and the current state government is liberal ....


we are not left over here, but liberal!

lols .. that might confuse albert ...

 

That's me!

 

Unfortunately, I think it's going to remain big 'L' Liberal for a few more years.

 

Yo, UM. There ain't many places got American whaling ships under their car-park.

 

true. I think state labor is pretty weak and disorganised here at present, and the independents are well and truly in the liberal camp, but it goes in cycles,

the election after next thiey might look shaky.

 

I agree.

Hopefully Ben Wyatt will be running as leader by then.

 

Id suggest you go look at the punishment for 'honor' related murder in various cultures then. This man wouldve been executed in Texas if he did not kill himself....doesnt sound like acceptance.

Try and remember the press and society general in the US far more free than 99.9 of the rest of the world...so youre going to have lots of people making bad decisions,because they have the right....and the press will report on it because theres no filters to stop it. Important to also add there will very little sympathy for the perpetrators of these "tragedies", no mentally retarded mitigation and most definitely public outrage.

Now stop being dishonest.

Not being in denial about the violence we all live amongst doesnt equate to acceptance of it.

 

The Australian Liberal party has its problems, but they're still better than Labor.

 

Sure, some people believe that. I wasn't referring to America though. I think the laws against Sharia are silly here, because the Constitution already prevents it.

I was thinking more about how Muslim-majority nations often implement Sharia Law to make life rather hard on non-Muslims living there.

Ethnic groups sometimes eventually "convert" just to get the government out of their business. It's kind of like how the Gypsies "converted" sometimes to avoid persecution from Catholics in the Middle Ages.

 

Gypsies - Jews and Celtic Pagans etc.

btw - I understand in some muslim majority countries , Sharia Laws applies only to Muslims, its doesnt apply to Christians and Jews .

Let's not forget that there are some matters which are decided on by Jewish Courts - Beth Din - in America and elsewhere .




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The jizya is a significant portion of what I'm referring to. People claim it's fair because it supposedly evens out responsibilities/taxes between Muslims and non-Muslims, but in practice, it seems to be more of a discriminatory tactic.

As far as the Jewish courts go, I don't care for those either.

If you live in a country ruled by secular law, no competing law systems should be allowed, even if they ultimately answer to secular law.

Part of assimilation should include the discarding of these silly cultural law systems. We're not freaking tribesmen over here. Save that crap for the Third World.

 

In Honor Killing cases ,Punishment should be immediant deportation of all surviving Family Members (Both close & Distant) who reside in or are attempting to enter the United States , and Death penalty should always be on table for killer if he survives.