Bush And The Housing Bubble

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  1. Margot

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    Bush had a dream of homeownership for everyone with a special push for minorities.............


    WASHINGTON — The global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse when President Bush and his economics team huddled in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for a briefing that, in the words of one participant, “scared the hell out of everybody.”

    It was Sept. 18. Lehman Brothers had just gone belly-up, overwhelmed by toxic mortgages. Bank of America had swallowed Merrill Lynch in a hastily arranged sale. Two days earlier, Mr. Bush had agreed to pump $85 billion into the failing insurance giant American International Group.

    The president listened as Ben S. Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, laid out the latest terrifying news: The credit markets, gripped by panic, had frozen overnight, and banks were refusing to lend money.

    Then his Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., told him that to stave off disaster, he would have to sign off on the biggest government bailout in history.

    Mr. Bush, according to several people in the room, paused for a single, stunned moment to take it all in.

    “How,” he wondered aloud, “did we get here?”

    Eight years after arriving in Washington vowing to spread the dream of homeownership, Mr. Bush is leaving office, as he himself said recently, “faced with the prospect of a global meltdown” with roots in the housing sector he so ardently championed.

    There are plenty of culprits, like lenders who peddled easy credit, consumers who took on mortgages they could not afford and Wall Street chieftains who loaded up on mortgage-backed securities without regard to the risk.

    But the story of how we got here is partly one of Mr. Bush’s own making, according to a review of his tenure that included interviews with dozens of current and former administration officials.

    From his earliest days in office, Mr. Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own home with his conviction that markets do best when let alone.

    He pushed hard to expand homeownership, especially among minorities, an initiative that dovetailed with his ambition to expand the Republican tent — and with the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

    Mr. Bush did foresee the danger posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants. The president spent years pushing a recalcitrant Congress to toughen regulation of the companies, but was unwilling to compromise when his former Treasury secretary wanted to cut a deal. And the regulator Mr. Bush chose to oversee them — an old prep school buddy — pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency.

    As early as 2006, top advisers to Mr. Bush dismissed warnings from people inside and outside the White House that housing prices were inflated and that a foreclosure crisis was looming. And when the economy deteriorated, Mr. Bush and his team misdiagnosed the reasons and scope of the downturn; as recently as February, for example, Mr. Bush was still calling it a “rough patch.”

    The result was a series of piecemeal policy prescriptions that lagged behind the escalating crisis.

    “There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems,” said Al Hubbard, Mr. Bush’s former chief economics adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. “Had we, we would have attacked them.”

    Looking back, Keith B. Hennessey, Mr. Bush’s current chief economics adviser, says he and his colleagues did the best they could “with the information we had at the time.” But Mr. Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration did not pay more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices. And both Mr. Paulson and his predecessor, John W. Snow, say the housing push went too far.

    “The Bush administration took a lot of pride that homeownership had reached historic highs,” Mr. Snow said in an interview. “But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost.”

    For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security. The housing market was a bright spot: ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

    Lawrence B. Lindsey, Mr. Bush’s first chief economics adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Mr. Bush meet housing goals.

    “No one wanted to stop that bubble,” Mr. Lindsey said. “It would have conflicted with the president’s own policies.”

    Today, millions of Americans are facing foreclosure, homeownership rates are virtually no higher than when Mr. Bush took office, Fannie and Freddie are in a government conservatorship, and the bailout cost to taxpayers could run in the trillions.

    As the economy has shed jobs — 533,000 last month alone — and his party has been punished by irate voters, the weakened president has granted his Treasury secretary extraordinary leeway in managing the crisis.

    Never once, Mr. Paulson said in a recent interview, has Mr. Bush overruled him. “I’ve got a boss,” he explained, who “understands that when you’re dealing with something as unprecedented and fast-moving as this we need to have a different operating style.”

    Mr. Paulson and other senior advisers to Mr. Bush say the administration has responded well to the turmoil, demonstrating flexibility under difficult circumstances. “There is not any playbook,” Mr. Paulson said.

    The president declined to be interviewed for this article. But in recent weeks Mr. Bush has shared his views of how the nation came to the brink of economic disaster. He cites corporate greed and market excesses fueled by a flood of foreign cash — “Wall Street got drunk,” he has said — and the policies of past administrations. He blames Congress for failing to reform Fannie and Freddie. Last week, Fox News asked Mr. Bush if he was worried about being the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century.

    “No,” Mr. Bush replied. “I will be known as somebody who saw a problem and put the chips on the table to prevent the economy from collapsing.”

    But in private moments, aides say, the president is looking inward. During a recent ride aboard Marine One, the presidential helicopter, Mr. Bush sounded a reflective note.

    “We absolutely wanted to increase homeownership,” Tony Fratto, his deputy press secretary, recalled him saying. “But we never wanted lenders to make bad decisions.”

    A Policy Gone Awry

    Darrin West could not believe it. The president of the United States was standing in his living room.

    It was June 17, 2002, a day Mr. West recalls as “the highlight of my life.” Mr. Bush, in Atlanta to unveil a plan to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million, was touring Park Place South, a development of starter homes in a neighborhood once marked by blight and crime.

    Mr. West had patrolled there as a police officer, and now he was the proud owner of a $130,000 town house, bought with an adjustable-rate mortgage and a $20,000 government loan as his down payment — just the sort of creative public-private financing Mr. Bush was promoting.

    “Part of economic security,” Mr. Bush declared that day, “is owning your own home.”

    A lot has changed since then. Mr. West, beset by personal problems, left Atlanta. Unable to sell his home for what he owed, he said, he gave it back to the bank last year. Like other communities across America, Park Place South has been hit with a foreclosure crisis affecting at least 10 percent of its 232 homes, according to Masharn Wilson, a developer who led Mr. Bush’s tour.

    “I just don’t think what he envisioned was actually carried out,” she said.

    Park Place South is, in microcosm, the story of a well-intentioned policy gone awry. Advocating homeownership is hardly novel; the Clinton administration did it, too. For Mr. Bush, it was part of his vision of an “ownership society,” in which Americans would rely less on the government for health care, retirement and shelter. It was also good politics, a way to court black and Hispanic voters.

    But for much of Mr. Bush’s tenure, government statistics show, incomes for most families remained relatively stagnant while housing prices skyrocketed. That put homeownership increasingly out of reach for first-time buyers like Mr. West.

    So Mr. Bush had to, in his words, “use the mighty muscle of the federal government” to meet his goal. He proposed affordable housing tax incentives. He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.

    Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Mr. Bush persuaded Congress to spend up to $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.

    And he pushed to allow first-time buyers to qualify for federally insured mortgages with no money down. Republican Congressional leaders and some housing advocates balked, arguing that homeowners with no stake in their investments would be more prone to walk away, as Mr. West did. Many economic experts, including some in the White House, now share that view.

    The president also leaned on mortgage brokers and lenders to devise their own innovations. “Corporate America,” he said, “has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place.”



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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21admin.html?pagewanted=all
     
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    And he made it clear that federal regulations were NOT going to interfere with any Big Bank actions and criminal standards.

    The boondoggle we are now paying for, in a nutshell.
     
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    Very worthy op!
     
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    Yep... I was reported to the mods over this issue because another poster was vitriolic that Bush had NOTHING to do with the housing bubble.
     
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    Margot:

    Excellent thread: At least it puts the blame in the housing game right where it should be.....GW Bush.
     
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    Listening to politicians, you’d think that every family should own its home — in fact, that you’re not a real American unless you’re a homeowner. “If you own something,” Mr. Bush once declared, “you have a vital stake in the future of our country.” Presumably, then, citizens who live in rented housing, and therefore lack that “vital stake,” can’t be properly patriotic. Bring back property qualifications for voting!

    Even Democrats seem to share the sense that Americans who don’t own houses are second-class citizens. Early last year, just as the mortgage meltdown was beginning, Austan Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economist who is one of Barack Obama’s top advisers, warned against a crackdown on subprime lending. “For be it ever so humble,” he wrote, “there really is no place like home, even if it does come with a balloon payment mortgage.”

    And the belief that you’re nothing if you don’t own a home is reflected in U.S. policy. Because the I.R.S. lets you deduct mortgage interest from your taxable income but doesn’t let you deduct rent, the federal tax system provides an enormous subsidy to owner-occupied housing. On top of that, government-sponsored enterprises — Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks — provide cheap financing for home buyers; investors who want to provide rental housing are on their own.

    In effect, U.S. policy is based on the premise that everyone should be a homeowner. But here’s the thing: There are some real disadvantages to homeownership.

    First of all, there’s the financial risk. Although it’s rarely put this way, borrowing to buy a home is like buying stocks on margin: if the market value of the house falls, the buyer can easily lose his or her entire stake.

    This isn’t a hypothetical worry. From 2005 through 2007 alone — that is, at the peak of the housing bubble — more than 22 million Americans bought either new or existing houses. Now that the bubble has burst, many of those homebuyers have lost heavily on their investment. At this point there are probably around 10 million households with negative home equity — that is, with mortgages that exceed the value of their houses.

    Owning a home also ties workers down. Even in the best of times, the costs and hassle of selling one home and buying another — one estimate put the average cost of a house move at more than $60,000 — tend to make workers reluctant to go where the jobs are.

    And these are not the best of times. Right now, economic distress is concentrated in the states with the biggest housing busts: Florida and California have experienced much steeper rises in unemployment than the nation as a whole. Yet homeowners in these states are constrained from seeking opportunities elsewhere, because it’s very hard to sell their houses.

    Finally, there’s the cost of commuting. Buying a home usually though not always means buying a single-family house in the suburbs, often a long way out, where land is cheap. In an age of $4 gas and concerns about climate change, that’s an increasingly problematic choice.

    There are, of course, advantages to homeownership — and yes, my wife and I do own our home. But homeownership isn’t for everyone. In fact, given the way U.S. policy favors owning over renting, you can make a good case that America already has too many homeowners.

    O.K., I know how some people will respond: anyone who questions the ideal of homeownership must want the population “confined to Soviet-style concrete-block high-rises” (as a Bloomberg columnist recently put it). Um, no. All I’m suggesting is that we drop the obsession with ownership, and try to level the playing field that, at the moment, is hugely tilted against renting.

    And while we’re at it, let’s try to open our minds to the possibility that those who choose to rent rather than buy can still share in the American dream — and still have a stake in the nation’s future.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/opinion/23krugman.html
     
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    The root of the problem actually goes all the way back to the deregulation of the U.S.' financial system, of which both Clinton and Congressional Republicans are largely responsible. This doesn't excuse Bush because he certainly didn't help the situation with his policies, but I refuse to stand by and watch you yahoos pin all of the blame on him.
     
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    Once again the liberals ignore those facts which don't suit them or their political ideology, in order to lie their way, and that of those they support into political power.

    Yeah it's a worthy OP alright, worthy of the circular file.

    Once again the liberals simply chooses to ignore the FACT that most of these "programs" were imposed by the Democrats in the Congress and began under the Clinton administration.

    Not the Bush administration, because those afflicted with liberalism, tend to also suffer from Bush derangement syndrome but I digress.

    It was the liberals in the Congress and the Clinton administration who started practices such as accusing, and even attempting to prosecute banks for denying home loans to certain individuals who were not credit worthy, hauling them before courts claiming the banks were "red lining". http://homebuying.about.com/od/glossaryqr/g/053107Redlining.htm

    But we aren't supposed to talk about the Dems in the Congress or, how they like to unconstitutionally pass federal laws to interfere in the private sector.

    Like certain laws which require a business or citizen A to enter into a private contract with private business or citizen B. As found in the banking reform act, and Obamacare.
     
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    Very interesting.............

    1 November 1999

    An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.

    The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.

    The certain result of repeal of Glass-Steagall will be a wave of mergers surpassing even the colossal combinations of the past several years. The Wall Street Journal wrote, "With the stroke of the president's pen, investment firms like Merrill Lynch & Co. and banks like Bank of America Corp., are expected to be on the prowl for acquisitions." The financial press predicted that the most likely mergers would come from big banks acquiring insurance companies, with John Hancock, Prudential and The Hartford all expected to be targeted.
     
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    .....

    We are slowly learning every day, in every way, that all roads lead to GW Bush.

    I don't know why some republicans want to preserve the Bush name, his stench follows him everywhere he goes....and don't understand why someone would complain about your thread just because it didn't agree with his own beliefs...that is what freedom of speech is all about. Some people will go to great lengths to get some threads off the forum.
     
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    Well basically I called Ace Frhely a dunce and he reported me to the mods.

    It does apper that Clinton caved to the Republicans in 1999.
     
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    Bush wasn't responsible for the housing bubble, but he did enable it. That's like blaming your drinking buddies for your alcoholism.
     
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    He probably reported you for calling him a dunce. Insults are a big no-no around here. I try to refrain, but it's hard to do when you're dealing with nitwits on a constant basis. :-D
     
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    I saw it coming in 2003.. Why didn't Bush?
     
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    According to your OP, Bush did see it coming.

     
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    As I read it the alarm bells didn't go off until 2006... Its a long long article.
     
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    Of course. He was a smelly RINO liberal who betrayed the GOP cause with his overly compassionate policies. Hence the radical shift to the Right of the GOP. Bush should've been a Democrat.

    Why do you think we shifted to the right so much? So that never again will another GOP politician use compassion as a way to trick Republicans into enacting bad policy.
     
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    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Published: June 23, 2008

    “Owning a home lies at the heart of the American dream.” So declared President Bush in 2002, introducing his “Homeownership Challenge” — a set of policy initiatives that were supposed to sharply increase homeownership, especially for minority groups.

    Oops. While homeownership rose as the housing bubble inflated, temporarily giving Mr. Bush something to boast about, it plunged — especially for African-Americans — when the bubble popped. Today, the percentage of American families owning their own homes is no higher than it was six years ago, and it’s a good bet that by the time Mr. Bush leaves the White House homeownership will be lower than it was when he moved in.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/opinion/23krugman.htm...
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related"]Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown - YouTube[/ame]

    Just goes to show ya you can't pick up a story in the middle.
     
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    I agree. Any politician that supports amnesty of illegal immigrants is a friggin' RINO liberal.
     
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    because he's a compassionate conservative..LOL..
     
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    Maybe Bush had too much faith in the shortcomings of minorities? Who would have thought how much of deadbeats that those blacks and hispanics would turn out to be?
     
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    Quite a biggish cut-and-paste... by forum limits, it almost makes reply impossible. If you mash all the air bubbles out of the causes of the "bubble recession" and if you can resist the heavy-handed manipulation of liberals who only want to leverage it in order to heap scorn on Bush, you are left with this:

    America, return to your roots in the Constitution of the United States! The powers, functions, and responsibilities of all branches of the Government are carefully spelled out in detail in it. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any of this disastrous stupidity and illegality where Government goes barging into housing markets, the ownership of corporations, picking winners and losers, and deciding who is "too big to fail".

    Bush was a gullible idiot for buying into any of this nonsense, and Obama has continued the fraud and stupidity of this massive Keynesian take-over of the economy by insiders in the Federal Reserve System, investment banking cartels, and other criminal organizations. In this miserable, failed melodrama, Ben Bernanke is the "Wizard of Oz", and Obama is nothing but his stooge and handpuppet. :puke:
     
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    Lots of them lost their jobs ... then their houses.
     

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