My God Carries A Hammer

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  1. Hjalmar Thorsson

    Hjalmar Thorsson Banned

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    I've never understood why any person of European descent would feel any connection with Christianity. It is a religion that was spawned in the Middle East a couple thousand years ago, but your ancestors did not come from the Middle East. Your people followed their own Gods and Goddesses for thousands of years before Christianity was forced upon them.


    Odin/Woden:

    A member of the Æsir, he is the God of war, battle, wisdom, and magic. He is the father of Thor/Thunor. Wednesday is named after Woden/Odin (Woden's day)

    Thor/Thunor:
    Thor is the God of thunder, strength, healing, fertility. Thor carries a hammer(Mjölnir) to destroy his enemies in battle. Thursday is named after Thor/Thunor (Thor's day)

    Tyr/Tiwaz:
    The God of law, order, combat and victory.

    Heimdall:
    The guardian of Asgard. He is the father of the classes of humanity.

    Freyr:
    Freyr rules over the sun, the rain, and the harvest on earth.

    Frigga/Frigg:
    Frigga is the Goddess of health, home, birth. She is the wife of Odin. Friday is named after Frigga/Frigg (Frigg's day)

    Freya:
    The Goddess of love, beauty, fertility. Freya chooses the first of the fallen warriors to prepare for Ragnarok.

    Hel:
    Hel is the Goddess of death. She guards over the realm also named Hel, where common folk go upon death.

    Sif:
    Sif is the wife of Thor. She is the Goddess of the harvest.

    Festivals:

    Yuletide:
    December 20-31. Yule marks the death of one year and the birth of another. It is a time of feasting and gifts with friends and family. A time for honoring your family, both living and dead.

    Ostara(Easter):
    March 21. A celebration of the Spring Equinox. A time for planting and celebration of rebirth. Named after the Goddess Eostre, the Goddess of spring.

    Harvest:
    September 23. The Autumn Equinox. A time to give thanks to the deities of fertility and pleasure.

    Winter Nights:

    October. A time to honor female ancestors. A celebration of the end of the harvest and the end of Summer.
     
  2. Thinker

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    Oh ODIN king of the nordic gods, God of war, battle, wisdom, and magic maybe nobody beleives in them anymore because of the magic part, you know, it being fake and all. And why there be many gods and not one? And why do they all get EATEN on Ragnorak?
     
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    Many forget that this religion was spread over a large area over a large amount of time, during all of which, communication was nearly non-existent. The details about the gods change depending when and where you get your info from.
     
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    Maybe because the actions and beliefs of relatives or otherwise don't really have an impact on your belief, but your upbringing does?

    If there is any worse justification in believing something than "the nice man in kindergarten told me", it's "We always have, or I mean, we used to".
     
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    How is this possible?

    http://youtu.be/OLSs7iH4l4k
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    religions come and go..it seems like 2 to 4 thousand years for popularity and then a few hanger ons keep it alive..
    it's amazing how Christianity grew so fast at one point and now is taking a dump.. still popular, just not like it was a few centuries ago..the influence Spain and the Catholic church had on South America is still very visible..
    I'm afraid Islam will be around for quite some time still..
     
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    Christianity was not forced upon Europe. Its the product of the missionary Paul taking the Gospel to Europe as God wanted. And then God opened the eyes of the Europeans to believe this Gospel.

    Quantrill
     
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    What I would like to know is, who says Christianity is a religion because Jesus sure was never preached that? Jesus is called king of kings and that sure has nothing to do with religion.
     
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    That would depend on what part of the world you might be living at. While I disagree with anyone that believe Christianity is a religion (those who called it a religion don't know what they are talking about) the fact is it not only will not go the way of others it will increase.....it's garanteed.
     
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    No, it was forced upon Europe. Many who refused to convert to Christianity were slaughtered.
     
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    Not true, were in history does it say that the apostles came and slaughtered europeans, they willingly accept it.
     
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    And then the Catholic Church spent centuries murdering anyone who strayed from their doctrine or maintained pagan beliefs.
     
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    The apostles lived to about 70-80 AD. Christianity barely existed at that point. Most of the converting was done later by the church in the good old fashioned "Believe what we say or we'll kill you" kind of way.
     
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    Think the disrespect for christianity might have something to do with the godless left vilifying it at every opportunity? In spite of the attempts to wipe it out, Christianity has flourished and it is still flourishing even in the middle east and africa where christians are martyred daily.
     
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    Once again not totally true, it began gaining popularity in rome, then when rome started conquering europe, the christians spread it among the natives, they didnt start killing people until the crusades
     
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    Hjalmar Thorsson Banned

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    Exactly.

    Charlemagne once ordered the slaughter of over 4,500 pagan Saxons in one day after inviting them to a peace treaty. The Saxons had refused to convert to Christianity.
     
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    Thor? Oh good grief. Might as well believe in Zeus. :roll:

    Someone's been watching "The Song Remains The Same" too much. :police:
     
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    A Jewish carpenter? That's rich. Now if Jesus had been an accountant, maybe I could believe it.
     
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    you accually believe in all that nordish hoo-doo, voo-doo.
     
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    The anti-Christians often project modern totalitarian intolerance and brutality onto past centuries. Many Medieval writers felt perfectly free to criticize the Church. For example: Chaucer in The Canterbury Tales and Dante in The Divine Comedy criticized the Church without suffering punishment.
     
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    There isn't any "hoo-doo voo-doo" in the bible?
     
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    No, its all god, its also all highly reasonable, it offers wisdom in life too, and there is historical evidence.
     
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    Charlemagne punished the Saxons for rebelling, where's your proof they were killed for refusing to convert?

    I like Norse mythology too, but let's not pretend the Norse religion was without flaws.

    Here's an article about human sacrifice in northern Europe.
     
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    C'mon, I'm a man of faith but even I can admit that men talking to shrubberies and parting rivers isn't "reasonable" or "logical" which is exactly why it requires faith.
     
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    Simplistic nonsense.

    Here's an excerpt from an interview with sociologist Rodney Stark.

    Question: What about forced conversions?

    Rodney Stark: There weren’t any in the time I’m talking about. Constantine didn’t cause the triumph of Christianity. He rode off it. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say he had many harmful effects. I don’t believe establishment is good for churches.

    LINK
     

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