Does anyone actually have a problem with states opting out of No Child Left Behind?

The legislation was poorly thought out, unfunded, and unrealistic. Does anyone believe this law SHOULDN'T have been allowed to expire?

 

And moreover, the teachers don't even understand it. With all the sex abuse scandals, it's clear that some teachers thought it was the "no child's behind left behind" program.

 

It should never have been passed into law in the first place. Virginia and a lot of other states were already operating under SOLs (Standards of Learning) and didn't need the additional headache - especially when they got the mandates but no funds to implement them.

 

I live in Texas, where Bush passed a "similar" law before he became president. My mom is a teacher and she said it is legally impossible to follow one law without breaking the other, so every year during planning they have to 'bend' the law to gray areas and make them fit. But no, federal involvement in public education is a great idea............

 

Parents need to get back in their children's education and stop relying on the government for everything..that's why we are in the mess we're in right now...parents have become lazy.

And yes, I homeshcooled all 4 of my kids, and they are doing great!

 

I have no problem with homeschooling, provided the parents are doing it for the right reasons and not because "the left is trying to indoctrinate our childrenz with inept public educatoooors!"

For most parents, they don't need to go to so far as homeschooling. They simply need to make academic expectations clear, support students in their studies (help with homework, get tutors if necessary, etc.), and encourage them to explore extracurricular activities both inside/outside of school.

 

*snort* I just realized I spelled home-schooled wrong and the spell check didn't notice it LOL

 

I have a BIG problem with Obama deciding who is exempt. Why does the President have so much power over EVERYTHING?

 

Why should you care why parents are homeschooling their kids? Why do you have a problem with parental indoctrination but not the indoctrination that happens at school? When I was in school, I was taught:

1. We were on the verge of running out of oil
2. There's a hole in the ozone layer
3. Beef should be banned because it raises the price of wheat
4. Evolution is real and Jesus is fake
5. Abraham Lincoln was a selfless, pious man who did nothing wrong

Just for starters. This is why I pulled my kids out of public schools (that and they tried to get my son on Ritalin) and they are now in private school which I gladly pay for on top of the taxes I pay for public schools I don't use. I think it's sick how you want to stop parents from being able to protect their children from liberal indoctrination. What's wrong with your head?

 

I went to public school in a very liberal state and was not taught these things, except for 2. However, that is the truth.

We were taught that oil is a fossil fuel, but not on the verge of running out. We were also taught evolution, but we were never taught that Jesus is fake. It was simply not brought up. We were never taught that beef should be banned.

Honestly, I think you are embellishing or just flat out lying.

 

It's time to boost society from the bottom. The better-off people are in general, the more successful the families and KIDS coming into the schools will be.

That is, the problems aren't just the schools... but also the economic conditions the students come from.

 

I think it's sick that you think public schools are liberal think tanks. What's wrong with your head? (Other than the fact it's up your arse)

 

The problem with the "liar liar pants on fire" routine is that it's as inept as your opinion or anyone elses. This is the internet and I don't give a crap what you believe or disbelieve because anyone can make up anything they want to. Because I'm a man of honor, I choose to take at face value anything people claim unless I have good reason to disbelieve it. For instance, in 1985 when I was in elementary school, it was a common belief that oil could run dry at any time. We lacked the technology we have today that informs us that we're sitting on oceans of oil not only in the ME but here on the U.S. continental shelf. This is just one example of how one should be careful in making assumptions about what was taught 27 years ago by looking through the prism of what we know today, lest you embarass yourself.

 

I was in elementary school only a few years after you. I was never taught the things that you were, in the context you put them. We were never taught that we were going to run out of oil any minute.

I find it interesting that you were taught this in 1985, especially during the oil glut and after four years of substantially falling prices.

Perhaps you were taught this. However, I question your claim that you were taught this because of liberal indoctrination. I rather believe that if you were taught this, it was put into the context of the 1970's oil crises in which prices of oil have not been lower since pre-1973 levels, even during the glut of the 1980's.

I am sorry, I am not buying into your claim that liberals tried to indoctrinate you during your elementary school years.

 

I pulled my children out of public school for various reasons..one being that they decided they needed to teach my children sex education in elementary school..I don't think so pal. That's MY job, and she (*)(*)(*)(*) well didn't need sex education in elementary school.. That was the first daughter..

The other was my son got a $150.00 ticket for absentmindedly tapping his pencil on his desk while concentrating on his school work....while the teacher sat reading a book with a taped recording of the days lessons played...then they tried to say he had ADD and wanted to drug him with ritalin..nope, not gonna happen.

The third daughter was failed twice for not being able to read....and I found out why..because she couldn't spell and the teacher pushed her to the back of the room and didn't make her correct her work, along with picking at her for being sick all the time...it was easier for the teacher to just make the 'slower' child move to the back and ignore her than it was for her to actually do her job....My child was physically ill every day of the week because of it...she HATED school.

I didn't give the school the chance to rip into my last child.

Back in the day when I was in school..there were a different breed of teachers....those who cared about the kids and their future...parent/teacher conferences weren't needed unless it was something drastic..and if one were called, the parent's ruled..not the teacher...these days the majority are all about the paycheck, and make parents feel like criminals....

If the government would butt out, things could go back to normal eventually.

 

Bush instituted a bad policy? I thought the right was always "right"? Bush WAS the republicans best possible representative at the time, correct?

 

Please go away. we aren't looking for your hatred towards everyone. If you can't respect people for their political beliefs then you are an indecent American. I'm sorry but thats the whole point of america is we can come together as different people with different views and discuss and argue and plan without hating each other and i get really really sick of every single one of your posts just being about 'hating the right'. In case you haven't noticed: both sides do things wrong and right. In fact, right now they are just about all doing things wrong. All politicians have become the same so to "blame the right" is just ignorant right now. Seriously educate yourself. The only thing hateful people like you look like to us sane people is IGNORANT.

 

Ummmm....no. The right wing and its proponents are killing everybody's futures. So, I choose to highlight the stupidity of voting republican.

Ignorant, hateful people are trying to elect a hateful ignorant corporate slave trader and it's my duty to try and highlight it. Plus...it's entertaining...PLUS...YOU don't like it!

Now why on earth would I change that approach in order to appease you?

 

Again, don't care. If you think the millions of Americans who are pulling their kids out of public schools are just fabricating reasons to do so, that's your perogative. Maybe you don't think it's indoctrination when they teach kids to apply a condom to vegetables. Maybe you're so blind to liberalism you think of it as normal. But the facts ought to weigh in even on you. Our public schools' performance is among the worst of any industrial nation in spite of the best funding. Kids who go to private schools or are home schooled regularly outperform their public school counterparts. The stats have been around for more than a decade now that demonstrate this incontrovertably. So no matter which reason parents choose for yanking their kids from government schools, they're right.

 

Nope ... if someone has a better idea ... quit complaining and get to it!

I'm sure that's what The President really wants to say.

 

I do have a better idea. Let's return the federal government to its constitutional confines and keep it from interfering where it isn't authorized to do so. The debate shouldn't be whether or not NCLB is a good law, but whether or not the federal government should have any say in how states run their education system. A return to block grants is a good idea. Better yet, get rid of the Dept. of education altogether, quit taxing the states for this, and let the states raise their own funding and determine how it will be spent. I'll bet that state to state competition might even improve our standing on the world stage a little.

 

Why dont you just mind your own business instead of telling other parents how to raise their kids? If you think public schools are so great then you can expose your children to the sick and abusive prison like enviroment that they create, just leave us sane people with the ability to opt out of that system by homeschooling our kids and giving them a normal, loving learning enviroment in their own home.

Personally I think all public schools should be shut down since it is immoral to force poor people like me to pay for them, I dont want these (*)(*)(*)(*) schools and it is much harder for me to afford homeschooling my kids when I have to pay tons of money every month to pay for the highly inefficient government run schools.

 

Please provide a direct quote in which I told anyone how to raise their children. Until then, you can ****.

 

All you do is spew hatred. You have no facts, in fact these opinions probably aren't even your own. Your just blindly following whatever group feels this way. Automatically hating every person who considers themselves not a flaming liberal is just stupid. There is no reason to assume that every single republican is evil. There is no reason to assume any politician is evil unless there are clear signs of corruption (Like Obama, Santorum, Gingrich, and Romney have). There is nothing interesting to discuss with you because you wouldn't even listen to reason. There could be undeniable proof that being a republican was best for this country and you would find some stupid way to think republicans were still evil. And if you are wondering, no I am not a republican. I just think you are an idiot. If every single post i posted was about how I hate everyone on the left and they should rot in prison would you be okay with it? Not likely.

 

None whatsoever.

NCLB is unconstituional BS.

And take the department of education with it.