why am I a racist?

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  1. ronmatt

    ronmatt New Member

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    Very aptly put..thank you. I also agree with your final statement. But I disagree that generalization is apropos in any case. Racism undoubtedly exists. It does cloud many issues. That's sad but true. However it doesn't give anyone license to denigrate anyone else whose opinions are based on their lack of agreement with a person of a different race they are. The word is used far too much, as a weapon, by the liberals. They seem to relish the fabricated opportunity to use it.
     
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    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me get this straight Einstein.

    His favorite musicians are black
    Big fan of many black actors
    Black politicians are liked depending on policy
    Partied with blacks in highschool - no issues
    Team mates in sports - no issues
    Dated a black woman - possible issues but he didn't care
    Served with blacks - trusted with no issues

    And you think he needs some training of some sort?

    You are trollish in your answer. Stop it.
     
  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I think the word "racism" cannot be said enough. That is, it is virtually impossible and impractical to point out every instance of racism one could note.

    And that is a VERY DIFFICULT thing to inform or educate many Americans about. If you recall, I pointed out that there are 'racist' people I've known/loved. There are a LOT of people who are racist, and I see (at least) shades of it almost every day I live. If I literally pointed out the racism I see in a week... it would take away a LOT of time from other things and the positive thoughts which have steered my character and life.

    Oh yeah... there is a LOT of racism; and it is more likely that White Americans would not detect it; it is imbedded within American Culture itself. It is NOT always pointed-out; that would just be ridiculous... like pointing out when you detect that someone is "horny". I see White Americans, Black Americans and others "CHECK" themselves on a fairly regular basis... and THAT IS GOOD. It means they care about something or someone in this society.

    Where I work (in the military), we receive training to help us deal directly with racism; it HELPS A LOT. The topic can be and is often discussed openly and in friendly ways. Racism is something we know exists even in our fellow members (but the "practice" of it is not tolerated). In open society, racism is shunned (by some), but it is not considered a legal violation or crime to act out one's racism (socially speaking). Consequently, many of us who have military careers behind us, have put a great deal of conscious thought into the topic. The military takes racism VERY seriously. If one leaves the military a racist, it very likely means that they want to remain so.

    Be all that as it may, it is apparent that American society has improved on 'racism' over time... but there is still a lot of it out here. And few of us have the time or will to point it out every time we see it. Also, it is important to discern between someone doing/saying something racist as opposed to someone BEING (as a matter of their overall character) RACIST. Example: I've seen straight people do homosexual things, but it doesn't mean they are actually "homosexual" in their overall orientation. On the other hand, if they go out and have sex regularly with someone of the same sex... then no matter what, they are most likely gay. :) I think racism is a similar kind of thing (socially speaking); I'm not comparing sexual-orientation to ethnic relations per se.
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Because there's nothing there to stop it. I was called a racist before I was not voting for Barack Obama. It infuriated me. I had valid reasons for my decisions none of which had anything to do with race.

    Unfortunately, for liberals, all that matters is race. That's why we now have the most racist administration in my lifetime. So, if a liberal is called a racist he acknowledges the truth by keeping silent.
     
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    speedingtime Banned at Members Request

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    Unless you dislike Obama because of his skin color or have some other problem with him that stems from his race, then no, it doesn't look like your racist.
     
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    Who?

    Which liberal says that any dislike of Obama is racism? Sounds to me that you are generliziing just the same way you accuse others of doing.

    I don't know whether you are a racist or not- if you say you are not, I will assume you are not until you or anyone else demonstrates otherwise.
     
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    Obama is not 100% black, just want to clarify that.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same reason you can't address the reasons some people don't like Obama's politics without some flaming conservative accusing you of calling them racist. Some people are idiots.

    You can't change them so you're best off ignoring them.
     
  9. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    I don't know, why are you?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another obviously racist ploy is when they start threads about some individual crime (say some girls getting in a fight at McDonald's) and quickly segue into a condemnation of blacks or Mexicans in general. There are a few posters here who hysterically trot out such examples as the basis for their racist screeds.
     
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    Why are you a racist, RonMatt!? Guy with two first names?

    I thought you were going to give a good reason.
     
  13. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Okay, most people know that. But the fact is, he considers himself to be "Black" (just as I and MILLIONS of others do). If you saw me, you'd know that my roots were not ONLY from Africa, but also from Europe (or some other part of the world NOT "Africa"). Yet as an American, it is apparent that I identify (naturally) with the descendants slaves and the American culture which stems from the same. I'm proud of that, but wasn't always.

    Of course Mr. Obama isn't 100% Black, just as millions of others are not 100% anything; but what they identify with culturally, is what defines them as a person. I've met/known many White people now, who are literally and naturally more aligned with the urban Black subculture, than I could ever be. If I didn't know better, "Rap" music would be something I was packaging 'gifts' with. ;)

    Even so, I'm certain that Mr. Obama is very much like many White, Black (and other) Americans; what we identify with "culturally" isn't a crutch or hurdle, but more like foundation (heritage); where our feet are planted as a reference.

    All that being said, it doesn't mean that we cannot relate to other Americans or others to us.
     
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    Yep! It's as if White people never act up (in their minds). :)
     
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    I actually have 3 first names and even at that...I'm not a racist...why not ask 'are you still a racist?' that question can't be answered without incriminating ones self.
     
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    It appears that you have a lot of spare time on your hands.
     
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    I'm racist to a certain extent just due to my natural humanism.

    My sociology classes with liberal teachers told me so.
     
  18. ronmatt

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    I'm more of a 'culturist'. There are things certain cultures do that just turn my stomach. With some it's the food they eat, others it's how they treat women. Then there's some bazaar religious practices....I confess to being a 'cultural bigot'...but as to skin color(?), I don't give a rat's ass what color a person is.
     
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    Actually....agreed!

    I've called myself a "culturist" before. lol.
     
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    Do you openly disparage birthers?
    Do you actively shout down people who question Obama's religion?

    If not, then you are known by the company you keep.
     
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    I don't openly shout down birthers because the evidence is in their favor from my POV.

    I openly know that Obama is another one in a long line of banker-purchased globalists, so I shout that down.
     
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    Apparently, you don't have UltraEdit32 :mrgreen:
     
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    Let's just put it this way. If it turns out that Obama's BC is an actual fraud...i wouldn't be shocked. That's not to say I'm a birther...but I'm keeping an open mind on the matter. As to religion? I really don't give a f***. I'm not a religious person. I'm 'philosophical' and a tad spiritual. But if Obama worshiped Odin, I just wouldn't care.
     
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    Yes. In the context I presented, you should understand better why I said what I did.
     
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    The left calls you racist to shut you up. It's the "shut up" tactic.

    Well, I reject that, and I won't shut up. Obama is a Marxist, and btw, he has fascist tendencies too. He's the worst of all ideologies and there's no way he should be the pres of a democratic republic. He's got to go. Vote him OUT.
     

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