what is a "racist birther" ?

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  1. obediant_consumer

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    i mean is it someone who thinks black is not the master race? and someone who questions the birth origins of barry soetoro?

    is thinking black is NOT the master race....is that in itself "racist"? if an italian questions the origin of barrys birth does that make them a racists against black jews? and at the same time make them an italian supremist?

    is it really racist to question his origins? i mean with the fake online birth certificates, the quotes by his kenyan family members, the kenyan government saying his birth records have been removed, fake social security number, giving up US citisenship to become an indonisian citizen.

    that somehow implys that you hate black jews?
     
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    Good posts, but the libs around here won't find it worthwhile. They don't want anyone to destroy their worship of their Messiah. :frustrated:
     
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    Well, it's a redundant term, for starters.

    Anyone that thinks Obama is ineligible to be President is retarded, plain and simple.
     
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    It's someone who can't accept reality because they're racist.
     
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    he is an american citizen?
     
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    Yes, of course.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't be silly, you know exactly what racist actually means. If some idiot troll calls you racist if you're not, just ignore them.

    Not implicitly. That doesn't mean that some of the people questioning his origins or attacking him in general aren't doing so for fundamentally racist motives, if only in part and/or subconsciously.

    It's difficult to be clear on the matter because it seems racism (in all directions) continues to be ingrained in US society.
     
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    Someone who writes dishonest, disingenuous threads or posts about Obama's eligibility to be potus.
     
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    A racist birther is a racist who doesn't have enough education to read US LAW.
     
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    A racist Birther is someone who is both a racist and a Birther.

    Insert "duh" here.
     
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    Usually yes.

    This is because it requires a deep and fundamentally irrational belief like racism to cripple one's cognitive abilities enough to accept five such idiotic falsehoods in a single sentence.
     
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    The "racist- birther" label is a tag that the liberal horde plasters of anyone willing to try to find out anything at all about Barry. If you wonder what he did in school you are a racist and if you wonder why no one remembers seeing his black ass born in the hospital in Hawaii then you are a birther.

    Because his father of record was not a citizen then Barry is not a natural born citizen. It is that simple and it doesn't matter where he was born.
     
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    Nonsense.

    We only plaster the label on those who have earned it. It is not our fault that so many have earned it.

    See? Like right there. You pretty much just earned it.

    You must not have been paying attention. Three courts or administrative hearings have called bullsh*t on that claim, just in the last few weeks.
     
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    Oh read the law..

    Obama's father was in the US on a student visa and under US jurisdiction..

    The ONLY way Obama wouldn't be a natural born US citizen would be if his dad was a foreign diplomat.

    Let's pick American education up a notch.
     
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    I have read the law of the land, the Constitution and it says, for very good reasons, that the President should be a natural born citizen. It doesn't mention Naturalized citizen or that the father being in the country from time to time made all of his children natural born citizens. That would make the child of an illegal alien eligible to be president even if the child was taken back to Mexico and raised by the leader of a drug cartel.

    The idea of restricting eligibility to natural born citizens, those with a citizen father, is so that we have presidents that are loyal to this country only. Obama ahs proven over and over that he is not loyal to this country. He goes to the Middle East and criticizes the US to college students and the people of Egypt soon after he is elected.
     
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    So far, so good.

    Well, ignoring that the child would have to move back to the US for 14 years, reach 35 years of age and then actually get elected, yes. Such a child is a natural born US citizen under the Constitution.

    It might be more congenial to your opinion had any of the Founders or Framers actually said that. Alas, none of them did. Instead they used a well understood term of art under English common law with a 300 year history... a term with only a single definition in the entire English language at the time.

    And Barack Obama meets that definition perfectly.

    you have a powerful Constitutional remedy for your disapproval of the president.

    Do not vote for him.
     
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    Lets start off with defining the terms.

    A racist is someone who judges someone based upon their race.
    A Birther is someone who has decided that the first Black President is not eligible and has proposed many theories that come to that conclusion.

    No....that is not. Asking that question might be a sign of racism though.

    Why an Italian would be concerned about where the President of the United States was born seems like a very odd concern, but if he questions it because he think Barack Obama a is a black jew, then yes he is a racist.


    If you question Barack Obama's origins because he is black then yes, you are a racist. If you accept every Birther propaganda point without question, then yes, you might be a racist. If you have read the rebutals to all the false claims you make above, and you still insist that Barack Obama is not eligible, then you might be a racist. Or you might just be against Obama for political reasons.


    I think asking that question may indicate that you are a racist. What the heck is a 'black jew'?
     
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    I don't apply that to every Birther. For instance I started a thread about a racist Birther who is challenging Obama's eligibility in Alaska based in part because he claims Obama is a Mulatto.

    You haven't participated in that thread- do you agree with the Alaskan Birther, or not?

    If you make a comment about the President of the United States that refers to his 'black ass' you are probably a racist, unless you habitually commented on George Bush's 'white ass'.

    That claim may be racist or may simply be xenophobic, but in either case, it is of course wrong. It all depends on the intent.
     
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    Let me answer the question in the thread.

    Claiming that the President is not eligible because he is a Mulatto- that is a racist Birther.

    Being motivated to claim the President is not eligible because you don't like his color- that is a racist Birther.

    Demanding evidence of eligibility, college records, kindergarten records, ex-girl friends tawdry tales only from the black candidate, and not from any of the white candidates.....yeah that's a racist Birther too.
     
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    interesting you refer to him as "the first black president.....lol

    actually hes the 6th half black president...do your homework..

    a black jew is someone who is half black and half jewish....where is the confusion?
     
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    Jeez.. a black Jew is any black person who converted to Judaism.
     
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    Irrelevant, since Obama was not naturalized.
    While I happen to believe he would, it's irrelevant to this discussion and a blatant attempt, as usual for birthers, to poison the well.
    Except that the definition of natural born citizen means a person's parents are subject to the jurisdiction of the country, not citizens of the country (although citizens are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, obviously).

    No less an authority than the Supreme Court has examined the history of natural born citizenship, stretching back hundreds of years in the common law, and supported my analysis. The concept stems from the treatment of subjects under the King of England. The Crown declared anyone who was born in the country, except children of foreign diplomats or invading armies, to be a "subject" of the Crown. This was advantageous, of course, because it allowed the Crown to collect taxes from them.
    All of which is a political question, to be resolved by the voters. None of which renders him ineligible, Constitutionally, to hold the office.
     
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    Its hopeless and boils down to lack of education...............
     
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    Yeah...well I was saying that based upon both comments in media, and from the African American community, and also based upon the racist emails I received prior to the election warning me about the dangers of the first black President. I guess not all of the racists got your newsletter.

    Sorry, I don't frequent Stormfront, so I will have to remain ignorant of whatever wierd conjecture you have come up with.

    I thought it referred to Sammy Davis Jr.? And since he is neither alive, nor running for President, I was confused by whatever relevancy your statement hand.

    I guess it is a great opportunity for those who are prejudiced against both Blacks and Jews to double down on the hate though.
     

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