what is a "racist birther" ?

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Oh it has nothing to do with lack of education. It has to do with embracing the wrong brand of 'education'.
     
  2. obediant_consumer

    obediant_consumer Banned

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    im german/scottish/native american..... i should not investigate or critisize anyone unless they are of my same 3 races? looking into anyones past that is not of my race then that is racist right? everybody loves playing the victom
     
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    What does your race mix have to do with lack of education?
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A simple minded slogan passing as an argument from the fringe left. A conceit...an affectation...a construct of the left used when they have no real argument.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    You are welcome to investigate or criticize anyone you want.

    When such investigations or criticisms are transparently because of the race, national origin or religion of the target, be prepared to be called out on it.

    For instance....say hypothetically, there are 5 candidates for President of the United States....and say that 1 of them is black and 4 of them are white....if you demand proof of eligibility, college records, kindergarten records, confessions from ex-girlfriends, only from the black candidate....you might be a racist.

    If you declare that the black candidate is not eligible because he is a "Mulatto" you are a racist.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd like to say thanks.

    I've been looking for the perfect definition of "incredibly stupid" and you just got it for me.

    Seriously, thanks.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do know Willard Romney's father was born in Mexico?
     
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    Regurgitating Birther lies as fact while referring to President Obama's defenders as being supporters of blacks being the master race. ALL of those supposed facts have been quite thoroughly debunked outside the hermetic Birther conspiracy community, and the fact that this nonsense persists is PROOF of the inherent racism.

    Here's the bottom line. President Obama is the first African-American president and he is also the first President to have his citizenship and religion almost fanatically questioned by literally millions of Americans. If it smells like a turd and looks like a turd, it is probably a turd.

    P.S. - what's with the Jewish references? Are you saying Barack is Jewish?
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    I think he has mistaken Barack Obama with Sammy Davis Jr.
     
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    The state of Hawaii has stated several times that Obama has a birth certificate on file. However, state law says that only certifications of live birth can be sent out to people.
     
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    This is such an idiotic assertion you should consider turning in your license to surf the web.

    There is no confusion, You are completely wrong.
     
  12. BullsLawDan

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    No real argument needs to be made.

    Anyone that has thought, at any time after mid-2008, that Obama is ineligible to be President is a retard, period. Are they all racists? No, but most are.

    Arguing with birthers is like trying to convince the nut in the asylum he's not really Napoleon. Logic doesn't work on kooks like that, they exist outside of rational thinking.
     
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    Seriously- did you listen to the tape of the Birthers with Orly when the Indiana Elections commission was at recess? They were unable to conceive why the commission- all lawyers- couldn't accept what the Birthers had presented as supposed evidence. Their minds are unable to envision a world where hearsay and documents downloaded from the internet is not ironclad evidence.

    To badly paraphrase "The Princess Bride"- inconceivable!
     
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    noooo hes not... otherwise you would have known right?

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    his grandfather stanley dunham is jewish.... but wait that a conspiracy theory right?
     
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    ...to everyone except racist birthers, yes.

    Face it; you people are a tiny minority on this issue. I know it pisses you off to no end that everyone else is ignoring you, but you need to get over this. The change you want is not gonna happen because you are the only people who believe your own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories.

    The analysis of the person you responded to was correct.
     
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    Yes, because it os obviously VERY important that we know exactly how many Jews he has in his ancestry. LOL
     
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    We agree, Obama most likely enrolled in college as an Indonesian exchange student named Barry. later he just picked up his Hawaiian CLB and applied for a SS #.

    Barry's father was not a citizen so it does not matter where Obama was born. he could have been born in the Oval Office and still he would not be eligible to be president.


    But Romney's grandfather was born in this country which made Mitt's father a citizen.
     
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    Why don't you stop and read the law?

    I can't believe that you still don't understand that EVERYONE on US soil is under US jurisdiction.
     
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    There you go again...just because someone doesn't think and bend as you, they are retarded. Isn't that in itself retarded thinking, or just egotistical on your part?

    There are many questions that aren't as transparent as the transparent president (who is not very transparent). We will one day get the results, but even then you won't believe it. He is a "Daily-type" criminal politician from Chicago. He scraped his political gums on the streets there and is close with all the corrupt leaders in the city. I'm not going to go on and on here because frankly it saddens me that we have someone in office that is so blatant a liar, but fooled the American public with two key words, "Hope and Change". Great words as long as the outcome isn't us headed down the path toward communism.
     
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    No, he never naturalized because he did not need to. He's a natural born citizen by virtue of his birth in Hawaii, the facts of which have been verified to a degree never before exhibited by any candidate for President.
    The portion of my post you quoted directly refutes what you just said. Obama's father was subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of Obama's birth, and therefore Obama was a natural born citizen.
    It's not because they don't think as me. It's because they hold beliefs that are factually and demonstrably wrong.

    Do you deny that the State of Hawaii has verified, on numerous occasions, his Hawaiian place of birth?

    If that is true, how is anyone who believes otherwise at this point anything but an idiot?

    All of which are political questions.

    I don't like Obama. I didn't vote for him. But I understand that he is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office. Again, anyone who thinks otherwise at this point is retarded.
     
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    Oh my.....

    First of all....I have no idea whether that is true or just something you picked up off of Stormfront.....one of the reasons I have no idea whether it is true or not is because it is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to anyone but a racist- which is why I don't care.

    Secondly- according to Jewish law- even if the above was true- Barack Obama would not be Jewish.

    And finally- why on earth would anyone care- unless he or she was a racist?
     
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    I do not deny they verified it. I also do not deny that a sitting president can get his hands on virtually anything he wants. Thinking he can't is retarded.

     
  23. SFJEFF

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    I think it is more likely that Newt Gingrich is really the Easter Bunny in disguise. There is as much evidence to support either speculation.


    Unfortunately for your fantasy, the voters, Congress and the Courts all disagree with you. Sorry Charlie.

    and how do you know that Romney's grandfather was born in the U.S.?
    How do you know that Mitt's father never renounced his U.S. citizenship?

    Look at the different standards Birthers use. They will accept anything taken off a Wikipedia page for Republican candidates- they just assume they are citizens, they just assume they are eligible- but for Barack Obama- they assume he is not- even when they see actual evidence that he is.

    Such is the mind of the Birther.
     
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    So, with absolutely no proof otherwise, you are alleging that the birth certificate is fake, and that the State of Hawaii, at the highest levels of government, with both Republicans and Democrats involved, is involved in a conspiracy to prove his Hawaiian birth?

    Why would Republicans go along with that?

    And why do you believe this about Obama, but accept (with absolutely no evidence) the eligibility of every other candidate for President in history?
     
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    Well I didn't make the claim- but after 4 years of making the claims, without a single bit of evidence to show that Barack Obama is eligible, with the evidence staring them in the face- let us review it shall we?

    a) Going back to 1962- two contemporary Birth Announcements in Hawaii
    b) Going back to 2008- an official State of Hawaii issued Birth Certificate
    c) The statement by the Hawaiian Director of Health in 2008 that Barack Obama's original birth certificate was on file in Hawaii.
    d) The publicly available Birth Index Data in Hawaii that showed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii

    Note- all of these preceded Barack Obama's term as President.

    e) The statement by the Republican Hawaiian Director of Health in 2009 that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a Natural Born citizen.
    f) The release of a certified copy of Barack Obama's original birth certificate in 2011.
    g) The confirmation by the State of Hawaii that the certified birth certificate was authentic AND that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Everything in your post indicates that you are ardently opposed to Barack Obama as President- and that is completely unrelated to his eligibility.

    So this is the 'retarded' part comes in.

    The actual evidence that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii is so obvious that only someone 'retarded'(and I don't like the use of that word)- mentally deficient and unable to understand like a normal person- or someone who is unable to distinguish between their political opposition to the President and his eligiblity.

    Because by any rational person's standard- President Obama's eligiblity is long past proven.
     

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