Why conservatives oppose ALL women's health issues: They think all women are sluts

The bills being introduced now in some state legislature's having to do with men's health care have nothing to do with abortion - only when a man is seeking a prescription for Viagra or other enhancement drugs and may include penile implants, vasectomies (which according to Conservatives and Catholics prevent the birth of so many children) and so on.

One bill that I think will pass will require men who want these drugs to watch a video of the treatment undergone by a patient in the ER when the drug leads to a "continuing erection" which can cause great harm to a man. We believe men should be fully informed of the possible consequences of taking these drugs which can include blindness, strokes, heart attacks and the dreaded "4-hour erection" and should also be required to undergo a stress test to make sure his heart is healthy enough to withstand the strain.

 

WTF are you babbling about? Is there a single progressive on this forum who can produce a coherent thought that is grounded in some sort of logic?

I ask again (this time, with the vain hope that some brainless progressive will give me a logical answer): Why in the world does living in a society obligate me to pay for this stupid woman's sex life? Do none of you socialists believe in self-reliance or personal responsibility? If you think it's so important, why don't you just pay for it?

 

You conservatives keep equating women who are on contraception with promiscuity. Thus there is no need for anyone to expand any further, because your perception on the issue, as skewed and ignorant as it is, prevents rational or thought-out discourse.

Misogyny is alive and well with our conservative friends.

 

Sex life is not the same thing a promiscuity, you are the ones that keep making that connection. Now tell us why others should pay for someone's contraception? As it is, this is probably an extension of the original racism that started Planned Parenthood in that a bunch of elitists think this will dampen the spread of minorities.

 

yawn, beaten to death a thousand times. why should i have to pay for the drug war? why should i have to pay for viagra? why should i have to pay for insulin? why should i pay for anything i don't want?

 

Wow, are you that detached from the issue?

Religious freedom is how this all started to begin with, and yes, Obama and friends want to force the religious self insured to pay for contraception, so yes, they do have to provide it by government dictate, so yes, they have something to say about it along with anyone that believes in protecting our freedoms.

Also, when did it become OK for government to dictate how business runs? Property rights are another freedom this dictatorial administration hastens to destroy. You are just another useful idiot if you believe otherwise.

 

Obama Fares Worse Among Women after Month-Long Contraception Mandate Battle
Washington Post poll contradicts Washington Post narrative about female voters.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-narrative-women-voters_633469.html?nopager=1

 

Weekly standard? I respect you conservatives enough not to cite from cartoonishly bias and partisan websites like dailyKOS and evilGOPbastards.

At least return the favor.

 

As usual, you liberals have no argument, just childish mudslinging.

 

As I said - for the same reason that "stupid woman" has to pay for your visits to the doctor for whatever ailments you have if you have health insurance with the same company. If not, some OTHER "stupid woman" has to pay for you or some stupid man. Is there a single conservative on this forum that understands how health insurance works and has even the slightest grasp of what the issue is?

The only answer you're likely to get that you'll accept is from some brainless conservative who didn't read her testimony, doesn't understand how birth control works or the other reasons it is prescribed, and truly believes Fluke went before Congress to tell them she was having so much sex she couldn't afford it and demanded that the Catholic Church provide it to her for free. After all, that's what the All Knowing-All Seeing Magnificent El Rushbo has told his stupid listeners so it MUST be true because the man wouldn't lie or misinform his listeners, would he? For the love of God.

 

And anybody who believes what you just wrote is an idiot that isn't even useful for anything except spreading lies for the Right.

Since it would be a complete and total waste of time, I won't bother with any links. No matter how many are posted or how many times the issue is explained, conservatives just ignore it and go right on with their PP Rush mantra of ignorance.

I personally think conservatives can't/won't admit when they're wrong because then they'd have to admit that their gurus and heroes are all deliberately filling them full of lies and misinformation and making fools of them.

 

Wow, ignoring the facts and current events in favor of your fantasies is not saying much about you.

Now tell us why free contraception should be dictated by the government?

 

well that provision was in the healthcare bill he passed.

i wonder how many people read that bill anyway. i sure haven't :rofl:

 

Like Pelosi said, you had to pass the bill before you knew what was in it. The surprises keep coming.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Lord, I love it!

It's a provision of the new health care law - passed by the Congress and signed into law by the president.

Other provisions will prevent ins cos from refusing coverage on pre-existing conditions and cancelling coverage in the midst of expensive, long-term treatment. These will cost the companies LOTS of money. The added cost of waiving the co-pay for BC will cost the companies very little comparatively.

Why aren't you complaining about those provisions instead of the BC provision only if you're so concerned about the cost? Because the first two will benefit YOU and the BC provision will benefit WOMEN ONLY? Or because it's about "sex"? Or because PP Rush said it would benefit only sluts and whores? Lmfao!

 

You refuse, because you do not know what you are talking about. You got scared, because you made a claim you couldn't support, buts that expected. I know the answer the question I asked, you REALLY DON'T. Conservatives do not call women sluts who believe in contraception, its not even what the republican party stands on. Secondly, they simply don't want the government paying for contraception.

I feel the need to make you an analogy, but then again its the kind of analogy you explain to a 5 year old when they do not understand something so I'd be wasting my time.

 

Which no one read. You do realize some of this stuff had been sitting on shelves for years and were dusted off and crammed into the bill at the last minute don't you? This is why Pelosi said it would have to be passed before anyone knew what was in it. Not one Congressman had read the bill before it was passed.

I have complained, it is called violation of property rights. People like you believe it is apropos for bureaucrats to dictate, left and right, what people and companies should do with their own property.

This provision also tramples religious liberty, something I am sure you libs could give a flying fk about since you seem to not care about any natural rights but only manufactured rights by government.

 

actually apparently it wasn't really in the healthcare bill. the equal employment opportunity commission added an amendment to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act a decade ago basically saying no employer can remove coverage of a product or service that is not used by both sexes. they argue that denying coverage of contraception (like the pill) is sex discrimination.

and i kinda think that's true, the institute of medicine has declared that pregnancy is a legitimate medical issue for women, and only women. so since it qualifies as medicine, no religious institution has a legal right to dictate what kind of coverage violates their 'religious conscience', as religion has no place whatsoever in medical practice.

as ive said before, 9 out of every 10 employer based insurance plan has already been covering the full range of contraceptives before obama even took office. so the people who have been b1tching about their "taxdollars" going towards womens' sex lives have been doing it for a while now. it's surprising so many people didn't know about this (including me)

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/decision-contraception.html

 

Let 'Em Keep It Up. Pissing off women, won't help ANY politician or party. So be it.

 

It doesn't trample MY religious liberty and religious institutions aren't required to provide coverage for BC anyway. The Catholic Bishops can go fly a kite. They need to clean up on their own doorstep before they start trying to sweep mine. Their religious beliefs do not affect what my health ins. policy provides to me and their attempts to influence that are just as wrong as forcing them to pay for something THEY don't believe in.

 

This whole religion/women's healthcare debate... illustrates one of the most profound reasons why healthcare in America should be "Universal".

Why in the hell is insurance provided through your employer? It's insane BS.

 

Absolutely right. Religion shouldn't be involved in healthcare at all. And IMO, any religious institution that accepts federal funds should be required to provide whatever coverage is mandated. They don't pay taxes but take tax money from everybody else and then want to opt out of anything they don't want to pay for while claiming their religious rights are being trampled! The American people who AREN'T Catholic have rights, too.

 

__Amen!!__

 

There are many who are sluts. But there are some who are not.

The defining characteristic of virtually all women is that they dress themselves up as flames to attract hopefully fully-funded moths.

It's in their genes.

 

1) We Conservatives maintain anyone who spends as much money as she says some women pay MAY be sluts. No one called HER a slut.

2) We Conservatives are against all girls getting that vaccine. Young girls should be encouraged to abstain from sex.

3) We Conservatives know that to teach moral issues without morals becomes just a course in how to.

4) Rush only stated what I presented in 1) above.

What is sad is many believe your baloney.