Do you believe "right" is different from "left" and by how much

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by peoplevsmedia, Mar 19, 2012.

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How do you feel about diversity of US political parties

  1. Promises aside they are all identical whores for special interests

    52.9%
  2. They are a little bit different

    11.8%
  3. They are very different

    23.5%
  4. Democrats and Republicans are absolute OPPOSITE

    11.8%
  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No - just outside your brainwashing area lad. Some would call you a thicko, but I say you are just ill-informed and too obedient to your masters. :)
     
  2. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As others would call you 'special' but I'll settle for noting the difference between your opinion and facts.
     
  3. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    That's a good thing. Democracy is just an excuse for 50.1% to vote themselves into the bank accounts of the 49.9%, and eventually you wind up with a situation where everybody robs everybody.

    I disagree that amounts to a sustianable system.
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    England has effectively banned firearms. You have allowed the state to disarm you and take away the last resorting (literal) weapons you will ever have to defend your freedom. You constantly talk about Americans serving their corporate masters, but the English are more than content serving their government masters. They're the same thing!
     
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    Why not start learning what it actually IS, child? I'm sure they'll let you off following your masters' media if you plead insanity! :)
     
  6. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't live in England, and since we are not Americans wetting our knickers all day long unless we have atomic bombs to kill black children I can hardly see your drivel as in any way relevant to anything. Have you NEVER realised that the capitalists and the government are effectively the SAME in capitalist countries, which is why they have you screaming about cultural differences as if you could do anything about them? If not, you are a bit thick, aren't you?
     
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    When has the US used atomic bombs to kill black children?

    Depends on how you define "capitalist". If you mean, an individual who acquires capital and control over resources and labor, then I would agree with your statement. But if you define a "capitalist" as a proponent of the free market, you couldn't be more off base. Most powerful capitalists are wealthy state socialists who hate the free market.

    Cultural differences are very apparent, but they aren't the big picture. The only real difference that exists is individualism vs. collectivism, ie. the war that the state is waging on the individual. That's what you democratic socialists fail to realize.
     
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    Democrats and republicans differ somewhat, but not too much. Conservatives and liberals, on the other hand, are diametrically opposed. Left wingers and right wingers don't even appear to be of the same species.
     
  9. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a joke about how scared you all are of everyone. Doubtless a rocket-launcher would be sufficient if they are under five.

    All capitalists hate the free market, except when fighting elections where the electorate is mad, in which case they lie. Capitalism is the search for monopoly, everywhere.


    All modern societies are collectivised and run for the benefit of the very rich. The Republican fantasy ones would collapse into anarchy at once. You obviously can't run an exploitive system without a VAST state. The only way you will get rid of the State is by abolishing exploitation.
     
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    Democrats control the wealth in this country and democrats run the corporations and labor. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
     
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    I agree.

    But a left winger would be socialists and further? And right wingers libertarians and further? Or how. Just curiosity, because is hard for me understand the political classifications of the Americans.
     
  12. Dr. Righteous

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    Sorry. It's hard to recognize sarcasm through typing sometimes.
    Not all of us are scared. Only the American neo-conservatives and American liberals are.
    But I have my doubts that the elitists are actually scared. They just scare the general public as an excuse to expand the massive police state.

    Not all Capitalists, only some. They lie about supporting the free market, and then use the state as a tool to subvert the free market in order to burden or eliminate their competition to artificially create a monopoly.

    That's not an adequate definition becuase that is a function of human nature in general. It's a function of the state as well.

    This is true.

    Are you referring to members of the American Republican Party? We have to get our terms straight here becuase terms in the US are different than the rest of the world.

    That is true.

    I disagree. I think it's the other way around....at least when referring to exploitation by the state-coporate partnership. Unless you'd care to attempt to convince me otherwise.
     
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    Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

    Laurence J. Peter (1919 - 1988)
     
  14. Iolo

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    'Ignorance' to rightist Americans = education and understanding. 'Logic' = 'what Massah said to say'. The whole nutty gang of you come straight out of 1984 and I wish you'd go back.
     
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    You seem to fall into the same trap as most, confusing politics with a single axis on which there are only two choices of direction. Perhaps you are not so totalitarian as many others, but that merely makes you moderate on the spectrum (if true).

    Sure, many on both sides trend in the anarchy/liberty direction, but the extremists of both "wings" have an agenda of societal planning that they wish to force upon the whole of the nation, whether it's economic control or "gays keep out" signs. You listed a few examples of totalitarian left, but when one mentions Nazi Germany or Mussolini's Italy, one is forced to acknowledge their tendency toward the totalitarian right.
     
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    Naw, they're exactly the same. That's why they get along so well and get so much work done together. :roll:
     
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    Is that why RP can't get traction in the R primary? He's too liberal? This country needs more liberals who want the gov't to actually, not just talk, cut back gov't.
     
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    Agreed especially on important matters such as economy, defense, growth of govt, etc...
     
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    Very well said....electing romney will get you more of obama which was more of bush.

    There is a reason the corporate owned media shuns RP. It is obvious to those who are not brainwashed by the MSM, fox news and msnbc.
     
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    That is uninformed opinion writ large and presented as fact...
     
  21. Iolo

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    Well, brainwashed binkie, what is uniformed about that? We do read their drivellings, you know, when the spelling and dialect permits.
     
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    If information is washed through magic glasses so as to see not what is but what one would like to be, then one is in a fantasy land.
     
  23. Iolo

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    Your parteigenosse (pl?) are all clearly nasty, racist, bullying and mad - it shows in all their postings. In the US they can threaten others into pretending otherwise: the rest of us tell the truth, and if you don't like it, hard luck; see psychiatrists.
     
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    Your 'truth' is simply DemSpeak labeled. You do not live in the real world...

    Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
    - William F. Buckley, Jr.
     
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    So you are trying to sound smart by claiming that these two idiots are very different from each other?
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