Why has the Trayvon murder split P.F. into a Left vs Right issue?

It spurns itself on. Some engage in it at first and then it becomes an us vs. them situation. That's what a lot of political discussions end up as.

Personally I don't see the political connection either.

 

He had a nose bleed and cut on the back of the head. The cut, evudently not severe enough to need stitches. The paramedics at the scene would have wiped the blood from his nose and head,

 

The left always rush in to exploit race, to win the support of minorities and the right whines when they do.

 

The new CCTV shows that Zimmerman is not a very big guy, certainly not the 250 lbs that is floating around.

 

Wait. Are you still claiming that you're not racist? After you write this?

You understand that as soon as you say, "Blacks inferior? Depends." you've achieved racism, right? The rest is just your pseudo-scientific excuse.

 

I don't understand that when a certain ethnic group is better at something (on average) than anyone else, we have no problem giving them credit and joking about it. Case in point: White Men Can't Jump, there was an entire movie showcasing athletic prowess with blacks over whites when it came to jumping. This is realized in real life as well, hence there is some truth to the stereotype. On average, a black man can jump higher than a white man. Look at the Olympics. There are exceptions to this rule, but none the less it is true on average.

But, when another ethnic group has shown on average to be worse at something, its racist. Why? Why is it only with minorities as well? As pointed out above, when a white person is deemed less athletic on average, its funny and ok to mention, but if you said that a black person, on average, will not do as well in school, its racist?

 

I'd still like to know what a picture of someone means in the grand scheme of the issue between T and Z.

 

Because the right believes in the rule of law and the left believes that is and should always be trumped by the politics of color.

Few issues in recent years has so clearly demonstrated this difference.

 

Yep!!!!!!!

 

Because they believe a non racist would pretend the differences dont exist, to avoid offending the minority.

 

Not it would not. A person can be held by police for 72 hours without charges being filed. That is not a breach of any rights.

 

First off, Trayvon's father LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY!....He was going back to his father's house.

Second, Zimmerman changed his story to say that Martin reached for his gun......His first story, was that Martin jumped him and bashed his head into the ground 5 or 6 times, and then Zimmerman "able" to get his gun out anf fire.

 

<it's because the "left" made Zimmerman a "white" Hispanic...if Hispanic even makes the equation>

 

The media turned this into a big deal because it divides the public, stirs up racism, and gives the politicians a chance to talk about gun control.

No doubt in my mind the corporate media is actively working against the American public.

 

Without the media, that boy's death would have been covered up by the racist Sanford police department.

 

Miscarriages of justice happen all the time. This one was brought to light because it has the capacity to stir up a lot of emotion, then that emotion will be used to write another law and expand the role of government even more. Same formula, different day. War on drugs, War on crime, War on poverty, War on terrorism. They all have the same theme, build the fed.

 

all the presidential candidates on both sides pretty much agreed in their public statements, seems mainly the right that has been trying to make this anything to do with guns and race

 

I would not say that, the police wanted to charge him, the da chose not to, I just found out on the other thread they said z's father was an ex-judge, I would like to know if there was any conflict of interest there

 

I did not come to the defense of Zimmerman, until after I saw a topic that said:

"The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him." Then I applied, Who, What, When, Where, and How:

03-23-2012, 04:17 PM:
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...n-vs-trayvon-what-mess-15.html#post1061057252

Almost none of the media have done that, they have demonstrated they do not know what "Who, What, When, Where, and How" means.

When I saw something that sounded racist, I responded:

03-23-2012, 07:57 AM:
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...erican-media-favor-blacks.html#post1061054784

You see the problem is, that after responding such, to such a topic, the media journalists failing to do their job had be responded to.

"Trayvon Martin was buried in Miami with a gunshot wound to his chest. But otherwise, according to Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who prepared Martin for burial, his body showed no injuries.

'We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight,' he said. 'The hands -- I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you. And that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there.'"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406725/martin-funeral-director-no-signs-of-fight-on-body/

So, why all the screams for help?

The suggestion of their own "special" witnesses, excluding any eyewitness that is exculpatory, is that Zimmerman somehow managed to hold the taller man down, such that he could not punch, without a scuffle, then shot him for good measure.

"QUESTION
Do dead bodies bruise?

ANSWER
Yes, if they haven't been dead long. Bruises are blood from broken capillaries that seeps into surrounding tissues and clots under the skin. Since the blood is no longer pumping once the heart stops, it doesn't seep as much…but it does seep. It is possible, by the way, to determine whether a bruise was inflicted before or after death, but it takes a microscopic examination. A bruise inflicted after death will contain the normal count of white blood cells; no more. But a bruise inflicted during life will contain an abnormally high number of white cells. Why? Because white cells move to the site of an injury to start the healing process. But only while you're alive. Once you die, that's it for healing." http://aaronelkins.com/Forensic_Tidbits.html

So, does that lack of bruising prove anything?

Well, has nobody spent hours punching military dufflebags, one hanging from a rope outside, one inside, full of outdoor grade carpet with bare hands repeatedly for hours at a time, for years, and got no bruises when punching a wall, or boards, hell, I don't know:

http://www.wikihow.com/Condition-Your-Knuckles

What this all boils down to is some would rather the victim of a beating or crime spend time in jail, away from work, in debt, and victimized by a Liberal system that respects the merciless brute more than the victim, simply because if they die in the crime they never get to be "resident genius" Wilbert Rideau.

"Rideau had always admitted robbing the bank, fleeing with the employees, and killing one of them...his defense team in 2005 included criminal defense icon Johnnie Cochran" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbert_Rideau

Julia Ferguson, knife in the heart, begging for her life, so said the guy that pretended to be dead...really special.

It is not about a neighborhood watch keeping an eye on someone, which is a human right a civil right, it is not about profiling a hoodie (I have one of those myself), it was probably not about race to the Hispanic when he was being beaten (at that point it does not matter who is doing it), it is about guns, an adequate defense when the Liberal law is none but "by any means necessary" for blithering idiot hypocrites, and considering Rideau and Johnnie Cochran it MUST be all about wanting blacks to get away with murder of Whites.

Now if someone is going to claim Spike Lee meant no harm, with his stalking twitting Night Riders, they can talk to the hand.