Should a religious employer be exempt from anti-discrimination laws?

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    A) A business has no feelings. You mean business owner. When you say business you are playing with words in such a way as to soften the impact of what you're saying which is that you wish to deny a human the freedom to choose their own customers.
    B) It does not hurt the freedom of those being discriminated against unless they live in a one horse town and only one general store. We live in the age of a consumer metropolis. There are twenty Walmarts and Old Navy's in every town. There's a computer in almost every home with access to every type of store imaginable. This is a false argument.
    C)

    Ha. Untrue. The general apathy of the American public cannot be denied. Real liberty is lost all the time without anyone getting off the couch or computer chair to do something about it. Just the other week our Judicial Branch just made it legal to strip search speeders because there was just too (*)(*)(*)(*) much crime and cops needed this ability to catch speeders who are also terrorists because...those (*)(*)(*)(*) 911 hijackers were speeders once. I'm completely serious.

    SCOTUS Judge Kennedy used that exact argument.

    Follow this on the heels of NDAA and HR347 which will land war protesters of the future in jail because they protested within the eyesight of someone with Secret Service protection and we're about bottoming out with those liberties we still have.

    I'm for 100% freedom and then alea eacta est! Let those dice fly. I'll take the danger that could come with it. I do every day on the highway anyway. We've all accepted that we could die any moment for the right to drive...why not the right to live as we choose?

    Business owners/merchants have a social contract. It is a business deal. If they don't want to sell to you, the are penalized by the loss of money. They can face boycotts from others as well. I don't understand this logic of forcing people to accept your business rather than giving it to someone that wants it. That's childish petulance. It really is.

    It's this: You hate me so I'm going to make you take my money!

    Great, now they have your money and they still hate you. They might even laugh about it later.
     
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    What a car crash of a thread this has been, to be honest...
     
  4. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, pretty much.

    BTW- here's a Jewish blogger who not only agrees with you David Kramer, to some extent, on the Israeli lobby, but also would not support the CRA or would overturn it if given the opportunity. Does that make him a racist and anti-semite who is complaining vociferously for a lobby to overturn the CRA and drive Jews out of Israel?
     
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    My experience has been that most employers will hire people that are like them. Muslims will favor Muslims, Asians will favor Asians, blacks will hire blacks etc. In small businesses this happens a lot. Noone outright refuses to employ someone because they aren't Muslim or whatever.
     
  6. Curmudgeon

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    I don't know where you live, but I can pretty much guarantee you that there are still many parts of this nation, that if it wasn't for the anti-discrimination laws, where you would find rampant segregation. I know employers who are quite vocal about the fact that they would never hire a minority if they had the choice. I know many people who would refuse to rent or sell property to minorities if given the choice. I live in such an area.
     

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