George Zimmerman is granted bond!

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  1. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    IMO, murder 2 will be very hard to prove. I agree that there will be a plea bargain for a lesser charge.
     
  2. Really People?

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    I can agree with the idea that murder 2 will be tough to convict on...

    I'd say voluntary manslaughter ends up being the end result...
     
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    The States proof is shadows, literally.

    If they had anything, now was the time to show, they have nothing and it was hilarious. That clown for the state got all arrogant and defensive at a press conference, the State looked bad.
     
  4. Really People?

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    So, you've decided from a bond hearing that there is no evidence of anything?

    If true, then, why were the charges not dismissed?
     
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    I don't think any Libs are gonna come on here all right-wing paranoid-schizo-hysterical at the injustice of it all ...

    I mean can you imagine the hate & hysterics that would come from the resident right-wingers if it were Martin appearing before a White Jeb Bush NRA Judge for killing Zimmerman in self-defense in stand your ground and granted a pithy little bail ?

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    Since your willing to make predictions, and your prediction is not unreasonable, do you believe riots will ensue if GZ just gets probation?



    Alright since you're making predictions here's mine:

    Hung jury: 12%
    Not guilty: 28%
    Pleads down to involuntary manslaughter: 20%
    Charged with lesser crime: 4%
    Guilty of murder 2: 0.05%
    Murdered before going to trial: 0.95%
    Thrown out before going to trial: 35%
     
  7. Really People?

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    I'm not making predictions...

    That's just what seems likely to me, given the nature of the case...

    And I'd hope there wouldn't be any riots...

    Unfortunately, with such a divisive case, regardless of the outcome, someone will think that justice was not done...

    But, in this time of armchair lawyers, juries, and judges, people tend to think the justice system has (*)(*)(*)(*) the bed anytime they don't get the outcome they wanted...

    Regardless of what they actually know about the case...
     
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    Man...some people just love whining about racism....

    Anyway...what happened this morning pretty much spelled out what I think is going to happen with this case.

    They're not going to make murder 2 without witnesses of the period between Zimmerman leaving his car, and the firing of the shot.

    They may even have trouble proving manslaughter unless the prosecution can make a compelling case that Martin didn't have his hands on Zimmerman when the shot was fired, if that's what happened.
     
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    This was not the trial and Z's lawyer pointed out the Prosecution was not going to divulge its case today.
     
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    Of course, we all know he actually is an inherently violent person, given that he stalked and murdered an unarmed teenager.
     
  11. Larryjohn

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    My Predictions:


    If not quilty ----- Blacks will riot

    If guilty--------whites will not riot but blacks may riot anyway.
     
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    Here we go....

    The fact that no one sees this as a nuanced case with complicated motivations and disputable "facts" shows how lockstep and herd mentality we've all become--in fact, many of you are unabashedly "herdy".
     
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    Exactly...and the defense had no choice but to tip their hand to get bond.
     
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    hmm, either did that guy who killed his wife and unborn child in California a fews years ago. Heck, Bundy was cooperative after he was caught. You guys are hilarious.

    $150,000 bond is NOT a victory.

    AND Hispanics ARE White. go back to school.
     
  15. dujac

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    that doesn't look like much of a prediction

    has anyone considered the possibility of a civil suit against zimmerman?
     
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    Exactly...and the defense had no choice but to tip their hand to get bond.
     
  17. Goldwater

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    No offense...but that's a reeetarded prediction Larry John
     
  18. dujac

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    i'm fairly certain that they could have chosen not to tip anything and not sought bond
     
  19. Really People?

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    Hispanics are not necessarily White...

    Where did you hear that from?

    And I don't recall anyone saying $150K bond was a victory...

    EPV was just pointing out the likely reasons why he was granted bond...

    And Bundy is a bad example, as he was charged w/ multiple counts of Murder 1...

    Murder 2 is a different animal altogether...
     
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    Only when they do something bad. They are included in FBI crime statistics as "white" criminals, but they are counted separately as "victims".

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    These guys don't look too white.
     
  21. James Cessna

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    George Zimmerman is in no way shape or fashion "white".

    This is true no matter how the loony liberals try to spin it.

    Here is a photo of Kane West, a self-admitted "Negro".

    His skin is obviously lighter and whiter than is George Zimmerman's.


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  22. dujac

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    do you think he's black?

    and didn't you say zimmerman would soon get bailed out of jail, right after he was arrested?


    you don't don't seem like a reliable source of information to me
     
  23. Really People?

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    Don't see what Kanye West has to do with anything...

    And, since there are, in fact, Hispanic people of the White & Black variety, I would say Zimmerman would fall under the White variety...

    Not that that is in any way relevant...
     
  24. James Cessna

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    George Zimmerman Tells Trayvon Martin's Parents 'I Am Sorry.'

    GZ is an innocent man.

    A guilty man, one who did not shoot TM in self-defese, would never have felt badly about the incident and would not have apologed to TM's parents.



    "The bond hearing concluded this morning with Judge Kenneth Lester agreeing to allow Zimmerman, who is charged with second degree murder, to post a $150,000 bond to get out of jail. The prosecution had argued that Zimmerman should be denied bail or that it should be set at $1 million.

    Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, told reporters after the hearing that he does not expect Zimmerman to be out of jail for a couple of days because it will take some time to come up with the money for bail.

    After the court hearing, O'Mara rejected the suggestion that they were "pandering" to the parents, and said Zimmerman wanted to apologize after hearing the parents on TV said that he had never done so.

    "He wanted to respond. I took it that the family wanted to hear from him and he wanted to say it… It should have been done in a private setting but that wasn't afforded him," O'Mara said.

    Ben Crump, a lawyer for Martin's parents, said the family was furious that Zimmerman could "give this self serving apology so he could get a bond." One of the lawyers for the family called the apology "disingenuous and insincere."

    Zimmerman, 28, is being held on charges of second-degree murder for the Feb. 26 shooting of Martin, 17, which could carry a life sentence if he is convicted.

    The exclusive photo obtained by ABC News shows blood trickling down the back of Zimmerman's head from two cuts. It also shows a possible contusion forming on the crown of his head. The original police report that night notes that the back of Zimmerman's head was wet, and that he was bleeding from the nose and head.

    Zimmerman told police that night that he shot and killed the teenager in self-defense after Martin punched him and pounced on him. He told police that Martin then bashed his head into the concrete sidewalk during the altercation that took place in the tidy middle-class development of the Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, Florida."

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zim...-bloodied-back/story?id=16177849#.T5FcHPllfIV
     
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    Zimmerman's Family at Hearing: He Isn't Violent

    The father of George Zimmerman testified during Friday's bail hearing his son always "turns the other cheek."


    His mother said her son is protective of vulnerable people. She said he mentors two African-American children.

    Prosecutors raised a 2005 incident where an undercover law enforcement officer said Zimmerman attacked him and an incident where a former girlfriend said she was also attacked.

    Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder. He says he shot Martin in self-defense.

    The judge will decide whether to release Zimmerman on bond.​


    I've seen reason to seriously doubt the alleged attacks brought up against him.

    At this point I have no reason to doubt this is true, that he is a non-violent guy. It just doesn't make sense for Zimmerman to walk up to a 6'3" guy on a hoodie and pick a fight. He was not physically fit himself, nor violent according to any evidence we have.

    And now of course, his story of head injuries has been confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt. And he sounds like a really good guy, that gives a lot of himself.

    Yet our country has already convicted him. It's more of a commentary out the moral compass of the american public and media than anything else.
     
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