Why is Socialist Europe Bankrupt? (Hint: Its not Low Taxes or Military Spending)

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  1. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    The question is poised to all.....but I would like to hear from all you Leftists and Statists out there.......as you will be the only ones who will struggle with the obvious answer. I would especially like to hear from you American Statists......you know who you are......you people who immediately blame America's (D)eficits and (D)ebts on US Military Spending and "Low Tax Rates" upon entering any and all fiscal discussions.

    Because runaway Military Spending and Low Tax Rates dont seem be a problem in Europe......much less exist......and yet these Liberal Utopias are all bankrupt and collapsing. How is this possible?

    To consider Democrats in the US have imported all their hair brain ideas from their Leftist bretheren in Europe.........

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    .....why would any sane person want the United States to continue to emulate these Liberal European States of Bankruptcy?


    Statism....whether its labeled as Liberalism/Communism/Socialism/Progressivism/Marxism........has never worked in the history of mankind......and has bankrupted and collapsed every and all societies and states that have delved down the path of Statism.

    Liberals and Democrats in the United States reside in a Imaginationland......where all of the problems the United States is facing can be traced to The Bush Tax Cuts, Military Spending, and a Constitutional Limited Government. And until these Democrat voters can come to grips with the complete fraud and utter lie they vote for and believe in.......our problems will continue to grow.......as will our bloated Nanny Statist Liberal Government......as well as our (D)eficits and (D)ebt that come with it.
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    Answer Hint: why do these bankrupt nations go after other nations which are not in debt to the bankers (Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Venezuela etc.)
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    If you still did not get the answer from the hint, it's a one word answer to your question... drumroll please....
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    INTERNATIONAL BANKERS. USURY....someone making money by manipulating rather then working.
     
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    Give us a relief. Europe is not socialist and is not bankrupt. And if now is having a lot of troubles is for the cuts, absolutely for the opposite that you are accusing Europe, for doing what the rights like to do.

    Ah, and associate statism with many ideologies that from your point of view are leftist is stupid, when the neoliberalism aka conservatism, neoconservatism needs a strong state to impose their unpopular measures. Yes impose. They need to be totalitarian if not he people would refuse it, with all their force. Neoliberalism needs of the thing that is known as Doctrine of Shock, pure authoritarism and imposition.
     
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    I agree with you, but if it was a site that I usually visit and where people can vote positive and negative the comments made by other people, I would have voted you negative, for the style of writting, big size letters, capital letters... Is annoying and I was really close to ignore the comment.
     
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    Badmutha New Member

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    So if its not Military Spending and Low Taxes at the center of the blackhole of European (D)ebt........

    .........what is it?
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    Badmutha New Member

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    Well you can affix whatever label of Statism you wish..........doesnt change the Bankrutpcy though does it?

    The trouble started long before the "cuts".........and it wasnt "cuts" that caused the massive (D)ebts and (D)eficits........what was it?

    An all powerful all controlling centralized Federal Government didnt always exist in the United States........but it is a requirement for Liberalism/Communism/Progressivisim/Socialism and Statism of all Labels.....as is the removal of Freedom and Choice.

    Most People gravitate towards freedom....thus imposition isnt required.......
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    Badmutha New Member

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    Cmon Libs dont be shy.........

    We all know the US is going Bankrupt because of Military Spending and Low Tax Rates..........so why is Europe Bankrupt?

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    Why? Because socialism always fails. It's a proven country killer.



    Are we next?
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    If I were American, I would be more concerned why the US is broke.
     
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    It's broke for the same reason Europe is. Excessive societal altruism.
     
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    the american figures are out of date....its over 100% debt to GDP now!
     
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    Badmutha New Member

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    Oh I am.... I dont give a rat's ass about Limp Wristed Europe.......their bankruptcy and collapse is unavoidable at this point.

    Im concerned about the brain dead mind numb liberals in the United States.....adopting all the bankrupt brain dead policies from their bretheren across the pond....as they have been doing for the better part of the last century.....hence our growing (D)ebt.

    The same brain dead liberals in the US.....who blame all of America's (D)ebts and (D)eficits on Low Taxes and Military Spending.....while ignoring the fact that their ideology is bankrupt around the world.

    Europe is a shining example of Statism....and thus Bankruptcy...and a glaring example of what not to do.
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever been to Europe??Germany is a friggin utopia..I don't know crap about their government but the cities are spotlessly clean, people drive new cars, no homeless folks, free health care and housing isn't that expensive..chit, I'd move there if it wasn't for family here..I speak German too..
    bankruptcy don't mean poop..Europe has had it's ups and downs over the centuries and the people there know how to adapt..if you look at history there the collapse of a nation has always been because of military might and empires..look at the Roman empire, Germany in the 40s, France and the British Empire..
    what your looking at right now is the U.S. Empire and trust me it's going to fall and fall big..our military is way to big and unnecessary..we control way to many countries around the globe and it's sucking our resources dry here at home..
    no one wants to believe me but I predict by 2050 we will be a 3rd world country and Europe will be doing just fine..
    and yes, I'm not a liberal..conservatives should be thinking about spending less and the first place to start is military waste but I guess that would be un American..
     
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    From the Wikipedia interpretation of Statism.


    "Statism (French; étatisme) is a term used by political scientists to describe the belief that, for whatever reason, a government should control either economic or social policy or both to some degree"


    Every democratic country on this planet has some form of Statism. It is not socialist, communist, liberal. progressive (call it what you wish) agenda. It is the day to day running of a country. Laws for example and a form of Statism.
     
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    Zionism is the actual reason that any nation experiences ANY economic success or failure.
    They own "Money" and the modern concept of "Money".
    We are nothing more than slaves to israel.
     
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    And Germany's infrastructure was bombed to smithereens 60 years ago, and has been built almost from scratch, along with integrating a poorer East Germany into the country.

    AND they have 6 weeks vacation!
     
  17. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    Merriam provides a better definition.........

    Statism
    concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry

    ....which would describe Liberalism/Communism/Socialism/Marxism/Progressivism across the globe.....Tyranny.

    If you believe the day to day running of a country somehow involves an all controlling all powerful ever growing centralized Nanny State Government.....then I believe our definitions of Freedom differ.........

    .....when Government controls every aspect of our country, society, and economy........the Democrat/Statist utopia is realized.....because Freedom and Choice have been completely removed.
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    Badmutha New Member

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    Well it might be worth looking into......look for the MASSIVE (D)EBT.....

    Could you tell Greece.....Italy.....Spain......before the collapse if you could.....

    We could eliminate the military entireley........and we still couldnt afford Obama and the Democrat Credit Card to Prosperity.
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    Ya, you don't know much about Germany.
     
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    LMAO!

    Not this again...

    Your image isn't telling -- since it points out external debt. Notice how the USA's "internal debt" is the same as the USA's "external debt".

    => complete failure on the OP's part.

    Adjusted for "real debt" -- you'll notice that the Eurzone is in debt in the high 80% -- the USA is in debt +100%.

    => USA = failure.
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    Yep it's called the age in which mumbo jumbo conquered... deregulation and sub-prime loan madness. Massive rewards for massive failures, boundless greedy bankers and so forth.

    Iceland is a good microcosm, they were doing more than fine until they followed suit with America, privatized the banks and let those idiots run amuck with the countries money.
     
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    Look at there military spending then look at how much we spend to "protect" our ally.... Do you think that could be part of it?
     
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    Hold on a minute - the OP stated clearly that military spend had nothing to do with this.
     
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    And each company has a Union and each board of directors MUST by law have a Union member on it.

    WOW!
     
  25. Badmutha

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    Well which European country's military spending do you consider excessive and a major contributer to their (D)ebt?

    .....and yet even the liberal countries that spend next to nothing on their military and defense......are also BANKRUPT.

    What a coincidence.....
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