So Marijuana Isn't a Gateway Drug Huh?

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  1. Nunya D.

    Nunya D. Well-Known Member

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    I'll have what he's having, please.
     
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    The irony here is that the market is so flooded with pot that it's easier for our kids to get pot than get alcohol. The war on drugs at least when it comes to pot has been a complete failure except to those who profit off its prohibition.

    There is no real solid argument to continue the prohibition other than special interest groups who profit off it and the advertising and media outlets who are paid to continue to supress the truth from the masses through inacurate propaganda. The middle American parents blind to how available pot is to thier kids, the ones who actually believe that pot being illegal stops their kids from smoking, those are the ones that follow blindly to the propaganda machine. They are the ones who give power and money to those special interest groups.

    It's a nice little system till people start waking up.

    The federal war on drugs is a complete failure.

    Parents and not the government is in The best position to stop their kids from doing drugs. They just long ago gave up on It asumming the government can do a better job. All we are really getting is more non violent kids in prison, then turned violent through the prison system. More crime and death from pot through it's illegal commerce than eveR reported from usage. And kids still smokin it.
     
  3. JohnConstantine

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    I'd make DMT mandatory... in schools, just after they graduate.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    That's the spirit (molecule).
     
  5. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much. A good portion of why marijuana was made illegal was actually racism, oddly enough.
     
  6. Serfin' USA

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    If you look at it that way, then you could argue in favor of bringing back Prohibition.
     
  7. stekim

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    Not to mention the obvious, but the gateway crowd is asking the question in reverse. The real question is: How many people who have smoked pot go on to use heroin? Because if pot were a "gateway" to heroin then a huge number of pot smokers would have used heroin. But very, very few actually do. I know a crap load of people who have smoked pot and none (to my knowledge) ever used heroin. The fact that some (or even most) heroin users smoked pot means nothing. I promise they also drank, ate at McDonalds, watched TV, had sex, and wore socks. If pot caused people to try heroin we would have far more heroin addicts.

    And regardless, as others have said, drugs should be legal anyway. It's my body after all. It does not belong to the state.
     
  8. charliedk

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    What???? that's just pure BS..anything can be linked to mental illness..don't believe the propaganda Makedde..
     
  9. Serfin' USA

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    The only link I know of is that schizophrenics shouldn't use it, because it can worsen their symptoms.

    Beyond that, it isn't anymore conducive to mental illness than alcohol.
     
  10. stekim

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    It's also possible that some with mental illness would smoke pot to feel better (regardless of whether it really helps them). But so what?
     
  11. charliedk

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    it sure is man, we eat good munchies around here..
    I don't smoke much anymore..maybe once a week socially if even that..nothing goes better with my homemade pizza then a joint of sourD..
    cheers..
     
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    No argument here. I don't want the government minding people's personal business.
     
  13. stekim

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    No government does that quite like ours.
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    I wouldn't say that... North Korea is the apex of that sort of thing. Also, most of the Islamic World is pretty heavy on invasiveness.
     
  15. FrankCapua

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    Whether you believe pot is harmful or not, it is difficult to dismiss the harm the "war on drugs" does. When a policy isn't working, smart people would try something else.
     
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    Has anyone ever done a study on whether or not sugar is a gateway drug? Specifically as a gateway to meth, I'm thinking.
     
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    ^I think this is a valid point. Home life growing up, attraction/exposure to counterculture, peer influence, etc. all play a role in the gateway to any kind of drugs.



    I actually agree with you here. Kids are not told the truth about pot. And I think society does them a disservice by lumping all drugs together into one category rather than separating the hard ones from the less harmful and educating accordingly. This is what causes what you are talking about. They try pot because it's the most accessible, they realize it's no bigger deal than alcohol, and then they get curious about what else they might have been lied to about. This is where the progressive desensitization comes in. They get brave and start venturing out into the rest of the drug world without a healthy understanding of what's okay and what can kill you. This is compounded by the glorification of drug use in pop culture. And ironically, the early deaths of countless celebrities from drug overdoses only add to the allure.
     
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    So why is marijuana different and better than all other drugs, including alcohol and tobacco? Simple. It is the one drug on this planet that God or evolution has designed humans to use. We were made with Cannabaniod receptors in our brains, which serve but one purpose- to make pot work. Without this design, it would have no effect. So pot doesn't get you high- your brain does!
     
  19. Nunya D.

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    You came up with this while you were stoned, didn't ya. (jk) :D
     
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    Many people who first try marijuana realize that doing so is harmless and that smoking weed would not cause the earth to explode. Many gain the idea that since they broke the law by smoking marijuana and that they are now labeled a "criminal" it wouldn't be a big deal if they broke the other laws that America has. It makes them feel that it is alright to break the law. Legalization is in societies best interest, keeping it illegal is in a drug dealers best interest.
     
  21. lizarddust

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    What I'm thinking is, marijuana is very easy to grow and cultivate. It isn't called "weed" for nothing. Being easy to grow it would be difficult for any government to control.

    If it were legalised, people will be growing the stuff on their back porch along with parsely, basil and origano.
     
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    You forgot the affect on others...after smoking, the smoker tends to GREATLY overuse the word "duuuuuuuuuuuuude!" :D
     
  23. TheChief

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    It is TOTALLY a gateway drug. Why? Because it's illegal. If the guy your buying weed from is also the guy selling crack then put the dots together!

    By legalising weed we would remove it from the illegal domain. Eliminating this problem.
     
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    I still want to know why we have to create agencies, pump tons of money into them for what? To stop people from hurting themselves? Doesn't that seem just ridiculous? You can drink drano if you want to kill yourself. Do we outlaw that? Gasoline will do it, too.

    It's not even about the crime because there are already laws against burglary, robbery, or driving under the influence.

    The prohibition of drugs is about one thing...money.
     
  25. Rebellion

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    Yes there is. It's certainly more reliable than your personal opinion.
     

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