Russia Is Our Only Hope.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    It is not an overstatement to say that I truly fear for the short to mid term future of the World.

    I can certainly see a large scale war in the Middle East, which in all truth, would probably lead to a third World war.

    One would have to be either blind or dumb not to join the dots, and see that not only are the Zionists cutting themselves a slice of the Palestinians, they are using their shill, America (no, not you stupid, I mean your elites, before you jump in, okay), to literally carve up the Middle East, and beyond, at whatever cost.

    And the same BS narrative is used all the time, 'we are doing it for huminatarian reasons', all the time that line is used, and you can be as sure as day follows night, that death will follow that line. And it is usually the deaths of civilians.

    The silence by Western leaders on the cancer that is Zionism is as deafening, as it is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing.

    That said, and to give this some historical perspective, German Nationalism and Hitler were not always the scary bogeymen that we think of them as now. At one time, Hitler was fettered by the US and others, Time Magazine Person of The Year etc.

    Not to mention the World Zionists who were busy doing deals with Hitler, and actually stating that they would leave Jews to suffer even more, so that they could realise their own end game.

    The 'founder' of Zionism, which is Jewish nationalism, not Judaism, was a man named Theodor Herzl.

    Let us now read the words of this man...

    The term "Zionism" was first introduced in 1893 by Nathan Birmbaum, but Theodor Herzl, an Austrian Jew born to a prosperous, emancipated Budapest family, is recognized as the founder of the Zionist idealogy when he published his book in 1896, "The Jewish State", where he declared that the cure for anti-semitism was the establishment of a Jewish state. As he saw it, the best place to establish this state was in Palestine.

    While Herzl claimed that the establishment of a "Jewish" state would cure anti-Semitism, he also promoted anti-Semitism to further his cause.


    Herzl stated in his diary:


    “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews.. . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

    Benny Morris (the Israeli Historian), described how Herzl foresaw how anti-Semitism could be "HARNESSED" for the realization of Zionism. He stated:

    "Herzl regarded Zionism's triumph as inevitable, not only because life in Europe was ever more untenable for Jews, but also because it was in Europe's interests to rid the Jews and relieved of anti-Semitism: The European political establishment would eventually be persuaded to promote Zionism. Herzl recognized that anti-Semitism would be HARNESSED to his own--Zionist-purposes." (Righteous Victims, p. 21)

    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/herzl/index.cfm

    So, there you have it, the words of the founder of Zionism.

    Pretty cynical, and entirely evil.

    I believe that one of our last remaining hopes against the Zionist virus may lie in Russia.

    Putin speaks as I wish the leader of my country would, to be honest, his words actually mean something.

    Putin is basically a self confessed anti Zionist, someone who the World Zionists fear, due to the fact that Russia are powerful, on all levels.

    And Russia will not be bullied and bought by Zionism.

    [video=youtube;D6h9tTz5VYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6h9tTz5VYE&feature=related[/video]
     
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    This is a longer speech from Putin if anyone would like to hear their perspective. I found it interesting, and his speech seems very reasonable and much more detailed than any speech we would hear from our leaders. McCain won't even look at the guy while he's speaking.

    It's in 4 parts.

    [video=youtube;Hr5GxN3C8uw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr5GxN3C8uw[/video]
     
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    He knows more about the goals of the internationalists in control of the US and most of Europe than their own people do. As I constantly rail against this whole idea of global governance, Putin ftw:

     
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    Russians understand the machinations of modern "democracy", despite Russia being an example of an undemocratic government. The protests currently occurring in regards to election fraud are indicative of such.
     
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    Give it ten mins, and the Israeli megaphone software will kick in, and a Zion pawn will be along to try do a hatchet job on a guy, who, as you say, would put our leaders to shame, with the substance behind his words.

    And why? Well, Zionists hate him, as I said.

    But he is well supported...

    'According to public opinion surveys conducted by NGO Levada Center, Putin's approval rating was 81% in June 2007, and the highest of any leader in the world'

    Of course, there was an attempt on his life, fairly recently.
     
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    He is 100% spot on here, also.

    The answer to his question was not only oil, there were other factors.

    Like the establishment of a new central bank of Libya.

    Yes, that's right, amazing, that rag tag of terrorists/rebels in Libya, you know, those that sodomised a man, they also managed to establish a new central bank, would you believe.

    It would be a total coincidence if said bank had any sort of Zionist world banking ownership behind it now, of course.

    [video=youtube;Iw5Ij_RFJ1Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5Ij_RFJ1Q&feature=fvst[/video]
     
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    Russia is adept at maintaining low debt, unlike most developed nations. They do so through the nationalized oil and defense industries. Many Middle Eastern nations employ the same approach. Maybe Maxine Waters was right with her rhetoric, we should nationalize our oil industry.
     
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    Usury and other such entirely destructive influences are also forbidden in many ME countries, being that they are Muslim.

    When people start even looking into even the rudamentaries of how the private banks, the Federal Reserve, etc actually operate, it should not take too long to see that they are being scammed! On more than one level, however, one of those being printing money out of thin air, then charging vast amounts of interest on said money. I feel that this can be traced back to the Rothschild Dynasty.

    I think you have mentioned them before, sorry if not, but I believe that Rothschilds sons went to each of the main trading cities of Europe, and set up what may have appeared to be public/state banks, but in reality, they were private banks, with unnamed investors and shareholders.

    The Bank Of England may imply some sort of public foundation, but I believe it was an entity which was established by said dynasty.

    Same with the Bank of France etc, again, it may imply some sort of public foundation, but from what I have read, it is the same as with the BOE.

    It's the biggest scam of a system possible, and lap dogs cannot see past it.

    If all debt were paid off today, by every American, including any national debt, it would likely collapse their system.

    When countries say that they are no longer going to trade in dollars, you can be sure that death will follow.

    Is it merely a coincidence that after four decades, that NATO decided to murder Gadaffi, in the same year he planned to launch the gold Dinar?

    Is it any coincidence that Saddam Hussein threatened to stop trading in dollars, then, well, we all know what happened next, right?

    When it comes to psychopathic elites, there is no such thing as coincidence, just the illusion of it.

    Jack
     
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    The Rothschild Family did set up the Bank of England. I believe up until recent history they would fix the daily world gold price. They have wielded tremendous power throughout history. During the 18th and 19th centuries, their influence was much more transparent. Nowadays, it is behind the scenes.
     
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    I just ran across this video that goes into this very subject. I clicked on it due to the title and found Louis Farrakhan talking about Rothchilds/Central Banks. I can't believe that I actually agree with him on something, He has a good view of the history of the Central Banks. Some of the stuff is a little strident for me, but some of it is dead on.

    Also, someone mentioned the new Central Bank in Libya. That bank was set up while the fighting was still going on and before Gadaffi was killed. The Asia Times did a good piece on this.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD14Ak02.html

    [video=youtube;VxegOjwPfjw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxegOjwPfjw&feature=related[/video]
     
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    It has better prospects. It is now the largest oil and gass producer in the world.

    But it's democracy is as much a joke as it is in the US. It has an oligarchy controlling its economy that is on a par with the oligarchs in the US. Its citizens are as addicted to drugs as they are in the US.

    But it is more amusing. And has produced a few decent composers.
     
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    Very true. Russia may understand the inherent flaws of other democracies, but they are terrible at fixing their own government's problems, namely those pertaining to election fraud.

    In regards to the video posted by Woogs, that man is largely correct as to the history of the Rothschild family, although he was ranting, so he was not as substantive. As a Jew, I consider what the Rothschilds did quite an intellectual accomplishment, but it does need to be remedied, and can be done so while benefiting the power elite as well as the masses.
     
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    When was it that Russia ever did anything right?

    They don't put gaskets in the flanges of their gas transmission pipelines.
     
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    That idea is nuts (increase government in order to decrease it). Nationalizing the oil industry brings huge costs to any country, not profits. The whole country slows down for a supposed government financial advantage. It becomes a huge corruption/ vote source.
     
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    The irony of Russia saving the world appeals to me immensely. It's just so dramatically elegant.

    Well, I hope someone saves the world.
     
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    Nationalize the oil industry?

    Have you ever heard of Pemex?

    What a powerfully dumb idea!
     
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    Nationalize the oil industry?

    Have you ever heard of Pemex?

    What a powerfully dumb idea!
     
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    Most Middle Eastern nations employ such a strategy, and so does Russia. Their public debts are well below most western nations. Newt Gingrich proposed a variation of such an idea, the creation of an excess royalty fund to help contribute to paying down the debt. The initial costs are heavy, and the morality is questionable, but for nations that have done so, the fiscal sanity that it provides is tremendous.

    Russia's public debt is about 9 percent of its GDP. Kuwait's public debt is about 12.6 percent of its GDP. Qatar's public debt is around 10.3 percent. These three nations all have nationalized oil industries.
     
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    'Saving the world' seems rather dramatic, I suppose.

    I don't see them as like some sort of Russian Superman figure, who are going to go around 'saving the world' (indeed, I would be worried if they made this their mission statement, since we can see what the US political elites version of 'saving the world' has led to!).

    However, since the United States have been gagged and bound like a gimp, by their Zionist dominatrix, and remembering that Zionist extremists are working around the clock to manufacture an excuse to attack Iran, then we cannot rely on the US political elites.

    The US could be a fantastic inspiration to all, of true fairness and a beacon of peace, but this honour shall elude it, for as long as the Zionist virus contaminates all tiers of Gov, foreign policy, media, etc. And much like a PC virus, it does not go away by itself, if you ignore a PC virus, eventually it will HIJACK your browser, and cause your PC to behave in an erratic and dysfunctional manner.

    Russia has a key part to play imo, because it's presence can curb the worse excesses of Zionist imperialism.

    Plus, it has the added advantage of being very strong in a military sense, so, sadly for the Zionist cowards, they cannot do what they would usually do if a nation or it's Gov speaks out too robustly against Zionism....bomb their country, kill their people.

    Russia would be more than a match for anyone at all.
     
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    The invisible hand, as it were.

    That which I, and others far more intelligent than I, warn of.

    For their influence extends to such a level, that, imo, they have a direct hand in, and gain from, manufacturing wars.

    In which soldiers are used as pawns, and cast aside, in which justifaction is created to murder tens of thousands of human beings, in some far off foreign land, and all because this criminal mafia, this disease dare I say, are always successful in the dark arts of getting moronic masses to fall for the idea that being maipulated is actually being 'patriotic', and that taking part in, or supporting the death of your own brothers, and justifying the murder of innocents, is actually something that 'needs to happen for peace'.

    It is all BS, and in this day and age, I cannot believe monkey's still have not climbed out of the trees and realised that we are all being fooled, that we are all just cattle to these rich plutocrats, so do not support any of their false constructs, such as 'patriotism', 'freedom', 'democracy', etc, these are merely buzzwords they fan out, via the media, hollow words, esp as the Invisible hand is anything but patriotic, free and democratic.

    Am I correct to state that the Rothschild name was not actually their original name, and it was something else prior?

    What part do you consider them, directly or otherwise, to have played in WW2?

    There are those that suggest they, because they are experts are creating wars, or the conditions that lend itself to war, had a hand in WW2, in some form or another? And if so, to what extent?

    They certainly had everything to do with the creation of Israel, and it's immigrant population.

    On one hand, you had World Zionists doing deals with Hitler, that would have seen European Jews resettled or repatriated to another part of the World.

    And on the other hand, you had the Rothschilds apparently doing deals with the British, to bring America into the war, to tilt things in favour of the 'allies', which of course, it did. The pay cheque that Britian had to pay, or at least British elites, let us always make that distinction, was to give Palestine over for the creation of this 'Jewish state'. The Rothschilds apparently funded much of the immigration into Israel, much of which was illegal.

    There are those that describe Israel as being like a rich oligarch or dynasty essentially buying/creating a country, that Israel is little more than a brand of the Rothschilds.

    Thoughts?

    Jack
     
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    From your link.



    One seldom mentioned fact by western politicians and media pundits: the Central Bank of Libya is 100% State Owned ... Currently, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank. Few can argue that Libya is a sovereign nation with its own great resources, able to sustain its own economic destiny. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability. Hence, taking down the Central Bank of Libya (CBL) may not appear in the speeches of Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy but this is certainly at the top of the globalist agenda for absorbing Libya into its hive of compliant nations.


    100% fact.

    Not the ONLY reason they did this, but one of the primary reasons.

    All the other reasons were about power and money also, for the few, of course.

    Every single one of the reasons, every single one of the countries involved in Libya, their elites did this for their own benefit, not Libya's, not your benefit.

    And now do you want the real insult to injury, the extra salt in the wounds?

    My country(Britain), we spent an average of ten MILLION a day, for each day we were active there.

    Now, at the same time, the political elites are telling us that due to a lack of money, essential public services must be cut.

    It disgusts me, and it should disgust anyone really, anyone who is not one of the elites.

    All this BS about people being Labour/Conservative/Republicans/Democrats, it is ALL meaningless, they all now pray at the same altar of money, and answer to their masters, who are not the people.

    They invade and bomb tiny countries like Libya, put NATO troops on the ground, who are then caught on camera while some disgusting individual puts a gun or stick up the backside of an old man. They do this to gain control of Libya's banking system, and enslave them. Then they use public money to carry it out. Then they profit from it. Then they tell us we all have to suffer 'austerity'.

    Then we have a Zionist shill, Hillary Clinton, a women who is MEANT to be a responsible and rational senior player in a supposedly civilised Gov, letting her mask drop, yet again, by her reaction here...

    [video=youtube;6DXDU48RHLU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU[/video]
     
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    Depends on if you would salute an 'intellectual accomplishment' that appears so very evil, manipulative, subversive, and with so much blood on it's hands.

    You say it needs to be remedied.

    But you don't say how it can be so?

    And to hope that the elites themselves are going to devolve more power and freedom to people, is a contradiction in terms, since the one goal of an elite is to be as powerful as possible, and you can only do that by the further enslavement of people.
     
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    The one thing you can guarantee from the ex FSB leader is deliberate disinformation and misinformation .
    Arguably the most successful Gang Master of organised crime the world has ever seen .
    The finances and economy are nowhere as robust as you have been led to believe and one more shudder from Western Banks and the hundreds of different Russian Banks will start to fall .
    The man has no beliefs other than whatever fuels short term plans .
     
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    Not necessarily a contradiction, just never tried before. The power elite can be as powerful as possible if their ambitions for wealth, which is their power, are directed towards a harmless system to the masses. That is what my derivatives and securities tax would intend to create. It would create a captured market fed by all the glamour of central banking policies, except the United States dollar and our economy would be completely insulated from it.

    How is this so? Well, modern monetary policies have been harshly criticized by many people, but they can serve a great purpose in turning the tides and alleviating the fears of armageddon that people claim will ensue in the future. My Wealth of Nations Tax Reform Act would do just that.

    The first portion of this legislation is irrelevant to the discussion. The second part of this proposal is the restructuring of derivatives and securities. These financial products have a cumulative notional value of $231 trillion dollars. This is over 3 times world gross domestic product.

    Anyway, these financial products have a structure that can easily be turned into essentially a form of money by simply liquidating them. With the innovation of quantitative easing, this can be done. You might be asking yourself, where is the benefit for the power elite? Well, one of the main benefits is that this system that I intend to create will actually require the demonic tactics of securitization and leverage to be successful.

    It would also require greater private control over currency. However, this currency will not be the United States dollar. It will be a new reserve currency designed to feed the revving engine in this market. This currency will have to be backed by a market basket of highly inflationary goods and currencies from around the world.

    So far, you are probably telling yourself that this is a ludicrous empowerment of the banking elites, and it is. This is where the benefits for the masses come into play. Once all the machinations are in place, and banks have restructured derivatives under this system that allows them to constantly create wealth and provide a service that will remain ever-stable so long as the Federal Reserve commits and the banks commit to 100% liquidity, a 1 to 6 percent derivatives and securities tax can be imposed upon these financial products. Such a tax will be able to generate tens of trillions of dollars in revenue for the federal government.

    In doing so, the national debt can be paid off. Confiscatory monetary policy will no longer be necessary to finance government spending or debt. Austerity measures, other than for good measure, would no longer be an absolute necessity.

    Corporate and individual income taxes for all citizens could be eliminated, other than for extreme stabilization purposes. Consequently, the disposable income of Americans increases tremendously, and economic growth will improve.

    This is just one solution. I have others.

    I have found a way for the inflation tax to be completely alleviated on those who are most effected by it, while at the same time creating a strong storage of wealth for retirement, medical costs, etc.

    The Federal Reserve currently holds 1833.5 tons of gold in its reserves. This gold is not used for any purpose. It simply remains idle.

    To put it to good use, the Fed could engage in a savings deposit reform initiative to benefit those on fixed incomes, savers, and senior citizens. They can do so by establishing another new reserve currency, this time backed by gold at a 1:1 ratio, able to be acquired by those effected by the inflation tax for savings deposit use at a 1:1 ratio. To help feed the process, securitization of gold ETF's and increased encouragement of leverage of such financial products will be forwarded. This will be of tremendous benefit to the power elite who will be able to inflate the price of gold in a no holds barred fashion to enhance their gold investments, yet it will also be of tremendous benefit to the populace.

    Consequently, a private sector social safety net system is created. People will no longer have to fear losses in wealth over time due to economic growth. In turn, government welfare programs will eventually no longer become necessary. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. could be eliminated.

    I am sure there are many other solutions, but these are two that I have thought up over the past few months.
     
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    To be fair, I am going to have to think about and try to ponder what you have written in your last post.

    However, for all that you mean well, what I see happening is a greater shift away, by the elites, from the masses.

    Imo, whereby before they would at least pretend to be civilised and have honourable intentions, I see them becoming more haughty, more brazen.

    It is indicative of such a sickness that we have images of Hillary Clinton, aka a pro war, pro attack Iran, Zionist shill, feeling that she can go on to American television, and actually laugh about the violent death of an old man. People see her behaving that way, and a % of them really do think it must then be acceptable, and so the slow damage to their own psyche begins. Ironically, not a one of them will ever realise that pound for pound, the so called spooky bogey man, in this case Gadaffi, actually did more postive things for his people, than Hillary Clinton could ever hope to, for American people. By miles.

    The Zionists cannot wait, they almost WILL NOT wait to see yet more blood, this time in an orchestrated conflict with Iran.

    Always the Zionist is in a rush like this, and for the good reason, that they prefer to rush something through, before anyone can get a proper chance to measure and evaluate what it is they are doing. You can see how Zionists were in a rush to establish a Zionist state, at any cost, even the use of terrorism. You can see the Zionist psyche at work, through the medium of Bush, who had that same air of haste about him re Iraq.

    And now they are trying to rush us into a conflict with a wonderful people - Persians.

    Israel, for all their posturing, are not so keen to start it off.

    At their hearts they are cowards. As all bullies are. Individual or international.

    They can barely manage Gaza, they flopped in Lebanon, and many experts believe that Iran would be more than able to defend itself against Israel.

    Nup - rather than Israel do it, what they will keep doing is using their agents and agencies in the US to do it.

    More blood.

    In your names.

    The time must surely come to throw these Zionists out of the hierarchy of US politics etc, I truly believe that at around the point that this happened, the US would beging to heal, and be a better country for it.

    The question is, how would Israel and Zionists react to a change of heart, from the US politic?

    I am sure, 100%, that if this came to pass, then as they did with the British, the Zionist movement would shower the US with terrorist strikes.

    Read my thread about the JDL, and they are only one example.

    Complacency, at least in part, has allowed these Zionists to slip into all places of high and trusted influence. The domestic terror they could strike down on Americans would be huge. And they would do it.

    Jack
     

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