Oversized soda to be banned in New York.

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  1. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    I doubt the percentage of people who know just how bad HFCS is for yeah is very high.
     
  2. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So simply because I point out facts that means I want people to die? Come on now. I don't want people to die, however I do want them to be free to make choices for themselves. Some of those choices may shorten their lifespan, but that's the choice they make.
     
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    My point is again how are they going to enforce this? Say they ban fountain sodas over 16 oz. what about selling 1.5 ltr soda by the bottle in places or high refill options for some extra money using cups inside the law on size.

    They will find loopholes.
     
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    The fact here is, those that smoke and are obese may not cost as much (in the long run) to the health care system because they die earlier. Once that is shown, there is no reason to defend the articel any longer. It should be common sense that the longer a person lives, the more health costs there will be.

    So your point is mute quit frankly.

    Also the cost of smoking and obesity is costs which not need to be. That is the difference.

    This is not about freedom, this is above life.

    Survey Says: Full Disclosure on HFCS

    We have nearly half of America not even knowing if HFCS is good for them. But hey, its their freedom not to know right?

    The only reason why cigarettes are still legal is because of the tax revenue. Maybe we should do the same with soda. I say ban them both personally.
     
  5. rstones199

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    From the OP's article:

    Conveince stores and grocery stores are not on this list.
     
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    Everyday is donut day to NYPD.
     
  7. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My point isn't mute. Fact is smokers and fat people cost less then non-smoking healthy people. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean you can just dismiss them.

    Yes, it's about freedom. How can you sit there wanting to ban things while simultaneously wanting the freedom to do other things which are currently not allowed? I just don't understand that type of personality. In any case I see no reason for there to be a larger black market for tobacco, especially since terrorist groups use smokes as a means of income. Even if they didn't though I default to freedom. Why should people not be allowed to make their own choices?
     
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    then of course we put them on a bus and exempt the bus driver from forcing all the kids to wear a seat belt
     
  9. rstones199

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    Because they die earlier. My only conclusion at this point, is that you want people to die earlier.


    A lot of things that are harmful to you are banned.

    Drugs have to go thru rigorous testing before being allowed on the market. The FDA regulates what can and cannot be put into foods.

    I cannot walk down the street looking like Rambo can I? Wheres my freedom to walk down the street with my M-60? Why shouldn’t I be allowed to make my own choice too?

    This is not about freedom, its about peoples lives. Pure and simple.

    About cigarettes....the taxes are so dam high on them, that it is no surprise there is a black market. However, we all know nicotine is an addictive drug. Unlike other illicit drugs, you can buy cigarettes on the black market and use them freely in the open. Ban the (*)(*)(*)(*), and the black market will go down.

    PS: I guess that fact that 46% has no clue what HCFS is doesn't even phase you. Way to go :thumbsup:
     
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    Your conclusion is invalid. Earlier you justified the soda ban by claiming a direct cost to you for covering fat people's health costs. My Fing shot that claim down. It doesn't mean he wants people to die young. Patrick Henry said give me liberty or give me death, not give me liberty because I want to die young.
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever you need to tell yourself. I believe in freedom pure and simple and that includes places having the freedom to sell more than 16oz of soda and people having the freedom to buy more than 16oz of soda from them.

    It is about freedom. Soda is a legal product that can be legally drank in amounts larger than 16oz. There is absolutely no reason for this law to exist. It's madness. As for the rest you should be allowed to carry arms with you (it's your right) and the FDA has its own issues. Just watch daytime TV and wait for the class action lawsuits against some FDA approved medication to pop up.

    How do you figure that there would be less of a black market? If anything it would end up the same as weed, maybe better or maybe worse. The law would almost certainly be treated as a joke and since tobacco is legal, well pretty much everywhere, it wouldn't be an issue getting ahold of it and smuggling it into the country. I don't see the black market decreasing, I see it getting so rampant that the average joe will be participating in the black market.

    Not my fault that people are stupid.
     
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    saw this on RCP and thought it was appropriate

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    And yet your solution is not education (as with, say, the warnings emblazoned upon packs of cigarettes), but government compulsion...
     
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    Yep, that has helped to get people to quit smoking.
     
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    Absurd

     
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    In a place with $10 packs of smokes, $200 dollars is nothing to a business to supply people what they want. If anything, nothing more than an indirect soda tax.

    Give New Yorkers credit. Remember when they passed a law saying illegals could get drivers licenses? All the DMV employees refused and it went nowhere. I have faith in New Yorkers. If they want to tell the mayor to (*)(*)(*)(*) off, they will.
     
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    I remember when they were trying to get that mosque built near Ground Zero but had trouble getting the building materials and labor because even after the hadjis won their court order, none of the local building suppliers or unions wanted to do business with them. The power of the consumer is still the ultimate power in the land! :woot:
     
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    Is it now a felony to sell 32 ounce cups in NYC?
     
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    So what if it's absurd? Who the hell are you to tell others what they can and cannot drink? Your position has been exposed for the fraud it is, first you claim to support the ban because it costs you more in health care cost. Once that was put down, you show your true colors as a nanny-state supporter who loves to tell others how to live. Move to China, nobody likes your kind here in America.
     
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    You can chop your kid into pieces as long as he/she hasn't been born yet, but if you want a soda it better not be too big.
     
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    better yet, you can eat 6 huge NY style pizza slices but ill be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you can drink a 20oz. coke lol.
     
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    That was never put down, as obesity cost $147 Billion anually in health care costs. That is $470 per person in the Unites States.

    46% of Americans have no clue as to what HFCS is, let alone how unhealthy it is. But dont you tell me what I can or cannot drink, even thou I have no idea what is in there - right?

    Just wait till O-bum-ba care comes. I will be laughing my ass off when you wished you still had 16 oz pops.
     
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    If it cannot live outside the womb, then it is not a kid.
     
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    That's a convenient imaginary criteria. Is that the type of mental leap in logic necessary to pretend that free refills aren't as unhealthy as one large serving? Or should those be banned as well?
     
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    dont give them any ideas or or the NYC Mayor will demand calorie counters be installed in peoples stomachs.
     

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